Posted on 01/24/2017 6:42:00 PM PST by SMGFan
Where in the Constitution does the fedrral govt have the power to supervede local authorities? If Emmanuel or the Governor were to ask for help that would be one thing. But at best it could be the responsibility of Illinois state authorites, not the POTUS. No federal laws are involved hrre.
You mean send the feds in to clean out the gangs.
Then the feds leave.
For now I think Trump draws attention to the problem and maybe offer some limited resources to help but that’s it. I don’t like bringing the Feds in because the murder rate goes UP. At what point do you say ok it’s too high l’m sending the Feds to your State, City, Town? Not comfortable with the idea of it.
Well, let me get out my trusty Constitution... er.. well, it says RIGHT here, Section 1, Article 8:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes...
To borrow Money
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and ...
Wait a second, looking thru these, there seem to be 18 things the Federal government is given permission to do, and this is not one of them.
The answer is Hell No. Trump should be urged to ACT according to Art 1 Sect 8. Period. Getting rid of a good portion of the federales, while at the same time extending the non-enumerated powers to state responsibilities is folly.
VANITY FOLLOWS:
Oh Lord, I hope someone can clean up Chicago. I’m originally from that tough city beautiful, icy city that works, city in a garden, city of big shoulders, crossroads and heart of America, city of neighborhoods, my kind of town, sweet home Chicago.
All those nicknames for Chicago ... they were all true. Every last one. Watching Chicago fall makes one truly appreciate the sentiments of Psalms chapter 137.
GO TRUMP! GO ANYONE WHO CAN CLEAN UP CHICAGO! MAKE CHICAGO GREAT AGAIN!
Who said anything about Federal police? Insurrections should be dealt with in the traditional fashion; with troops.
If DJT doesn’t use troops, which I think would be a crying shame, he will still have lots and lots of Federal prosecutors available. All it takes is a little initiative and gangbangers will be finding themselves in ADX Florence.
We forget that the law abiding in Chicago can’t freely walk down the street without threat of extreme violence, and it’s increasingly evident that the criminals and local politicians are in more or less open collaboration. That’s an environment ripe for disaster. Hell, it’s already a disaster.
About twenty-five years ago the Federal Government decided to crack down on street crime and particularly gun violence Washington D.C. What they did was to assign Federal prosecutors to bring charges in Federal Court in cases that would normally be handled in D.C.; Superior Court. While, you can argue that D.C never became a crime free city, this strategy had a dramatic effect on the number of criminals on the street and the murder rate.
Mmm, don’t agree.
What are the Feds going to do?
You can’t stop people from killing each other indiscriminately ... you can’t be on every corner, in every alley, at every gathering etc.
I’m not for this. There is nothing for Federal agents to do there, except be targets themselves.
This is a Chicago and Illinois problem. Let them sort it out ... or not. Meantime they are getting bad press which is bad for business/tourism etc. How is this the problem of the rest of the country’s taxpayers?
People who live there need to do something about the violence ... or move. I’m not convinced there is anything that can be done.
This is not a Fed problem.
Troops in our streets?
Don’t think that is constitutional unless we are being invaded by a foreign entity on our own soil.
You have an 82% chance of living if you get shot.
You are 76,000 times more likely to attend a Cubs game than be killed in Chicago.
CHICAGO. WHERE THE ODDS ARE ON YOUR SIDE.
The Elder Bush sent troops to Los Angeles during the Rodney King insurrection in 1992.
Your list of what section 1 says is incomplete. And I quote: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions...”
Executing the laws of the Union would include anti-terrorism statutes, civil rights statutes, and RICO statutes. Although I think suppressing insurrection comes into play as well.
No. To quell insurrection, and there is a long history of that going back to the Whiskey Rebellion.
Some of the missing F&F guns might show up.
If you were a black grandmother trying to raise a grandson in south Chicago you would welcome the national guard on your street. Kennedy sent troops to Alabama trump can Damn well send them to clean up chicago.
Agreed. Practice wall building around that turd-world city, and let them shoot it out! Don’t fix dem sewers unless it benefits us.
This Chicago situation is really just a visible outlier of the larger drug problem. Sure you could probably clamp down on the visible carnage but it could just end up spreading to ten other locations as the gangs adjust their tactics and organization. I don’t think this killing is just random violence, it is the brutal business of turf protection, same as one finds in other drug distribution hubs around North America.
This is not to say that I disapprove of the idea but just that I don’t think it can lead to much unless there is a larger strategy to take on the cartels. That is actually a bigger problem than Islamic terrorism at the current levels of activity in both cases. Perhaps it should be the main focus of any modern presidency. But as I said about the war on terrorism, one needs to be realistic about what will happen if all-out combat is the chosen path. They won’t just go out with a one-week spree of violence, the cartels are far bigger and more powerful than most people realize. Look at Mexico. They more or less govern that sad country.
They need a shot clock.
Do people realize there were 16 US casualties in Afghanistan last year? I think it’s safe to say Chicago is a war zone.
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