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As America stands at the brink of Cold War 2.0, the intelligence community continues to demonstrate that it cannot be trusted — even when it may be needed more than ever. by C. Mitchell Shaw
1 posted on 01/17/2017 5:22:57 AM PST by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

One word answer,”NO!”


2 posted on 01/17/2017 5:24:30 AM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: VitacoreVision

NO!

The “intelligence community” has shown itself to not be very intelligent and not on the side of the citizens.


3 posted on 01/17/2017 5:26:54 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: VitacoreVision

Prior to restoring trust and effectiveness, there must be a comprehensive purge that will cause the Left to howl. However the Obama commissars and their acolytes must be removed. John Brennan should be arrested.


4 posted on 01/17/2017 5:26:55 AM PST by allendale
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To: VitacoreVision

If all that can be changed for the better, President Trump will be the catalyst for it.

If he can’t/won’t do it, nobody else could have either.

Right now my money is on that man, Donald J. Trump.


5 posted on 01/17/2017 5:28:40 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: VitacoreVision

First, this Senate hearing was just before Senator McCain admitted to being one of the intelligence community’s sources in acquiring the “dossier” on Trump.
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And anybody with any intelligence knows that McCain has not been on the side of the citizens and the rule of law for a very long time. They don’t call him McAmnesty for nothing.
Why are Arizona voters so stupid they continually elect Cheap Labor Express stooges like McCain, Flake and McSally?


7 posted on 01/17/2017 5:29:38 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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8 posted on 01/17/2017 5:29:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: VitacoreVision

I do not trust President Trump very much. I trust every other part of what is supposed to be our federal government far less. As for the CIA/NSA/DIA/etc, I don’t trust them at all. And the remaining democrats in office and on welfare? They are America’s enemies, far lower than Putin (who may at least share interests with our country).


10 posted on 01/17/2017 5:31:58 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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“Can the American People Trust the Intelligence Community”?
After having been lied to by every facet of the federal gub mint for years, the American people have no confidence in any aspect of the federal gubmint.
Other than the gubmint is there to screw you./


12 posted on 01/17/2017 5:37:18 AM PST by Joe Boucher (Her ass belongs in prison along with the jive ass punk obammy.)
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It’s just another conglomeration of bureaucratic fiefdoms.

The well being and survival of the bureaucracy itself becomes their primary concern.

We can trust them to protect themselves and advance their own interests, not the nations.

The nation’s agenda is not necessarily their agenda.


13 posted on 01/17/2017 5:37:43 AM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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Speaking as a 40-year intelligence veteran, in a word - NO. Intelligence has become a poor metaphor for statistics:

“Like dreams, statistics are a form of wish fulfillment.” Jean Baudrillard

“Be able to analyze statistics, which can be used to support or undercut almost any argument.” Marilyn vos Savant

“Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable.” Mark Twain

...and there are many others.

Irrespective of political parties, as long as appointments to the highest offices in the IC - and that includes ALL 17 component agencies - are made on the sole basis of politics, the IC will continue to be driven by political considerations and not sound analytic reasoning.


14 posted on 01/17/2017 5:37:50 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: VitacoreVision

Well they did miss every important development in the world for the past eight years.


15 posted on 01/17/2017 5:50:20 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: VitacoreVision
I have just two quibbles with what otherwise is a very interesting article.

First, the author says: "America is in the beginning stages of a new Cold War with Russia. And China."

Well, only if the war hawks in Washington and Langley get their way. A new cold war is not inevitable and a large part of these people's problem with Donald Trump is that he is not following their script. Russia is not our natural enemy and Trump may very well be able to head off a new cold war.

My second problem with this author's statements is an omission he made that is very pertinent to the problem of foreign hacking of our govt and business computer systems. When he said:

"at a time when America needs to know the truth about foreign powers hacking U.S. systems, as both Russia and China have both done, the intelligence community has shown itself an unreliable source of information"

Some mention should have been made of US hacking of foreign govts and businesses. We are #1 in this field and have been for a long time. If foreign hacking of govt and business systems is a problem then WE are a big part of the problem.

Otherwise, an interesting and informative article.
16 posted on 01/17/2017 5:56:22 AM PST by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To echo other comments posted here..NO , not with the staff that currently are at or near the to[p...A purge and prosecution is needed that goes way deep...and all must be exposed and punished with extreme and shocking ways to prove that treason in any form will be met with death...otherwise we just finance a relapse of what it is right now. Read my profile....and you’ll see what I really think.


17 posted on 01/17/2017 6:28:59 AM PST by mythenjoseph
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In Cold War 2.0, Can the American People Trust the Intelligence Community?

Sure...at least as much as we could trust them in Cold War 1.0. Missile gap anyone?

18 posted on 01/17/2017 6:38:51 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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If Clapper truly lied under oath, he should be in prison. Congress must assert it’s coequal position.


19 posted on 01/17/2017 6:44:14 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: VitacoreVision

Uh, no.


20 posted on 01/17/2017 11:08:18 AM PST by jch10 (President Trump, President Trump, President Trump! I just love saying that!)
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