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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“The EPA does not make laws.”

Here is my understanding of how it works. Congress passes a bill that, for example, all cars must get 50 miles per gallon by 2030. They assign the authority to write that law into regulations to the EPA (or other appropriate agency.) The EPA then generates a mountain of regulations that they feel will be needed to meet the intent of the law. Those regulations have the force of law. Violations of the law can be fined or involved prison terms, depending.

Violation of many regulations count as a criminal act. For example, I know someone who was cited for illegal burning. It was a criminal arrest. Had he paid the fine and the $1500 mandated “criminal intervention” program then the criminal part would be erased from his record. (Ultimately, it’s all about money.) He was unable to do so. The state took his driver’s license, which is how they motivate you to pay. He lost his job, his marriage and has been living on welfare ever since. This was about five years ago. The state now pays all his medical and his food.

The state is an uncaring, illogical monster.


11 posted on 01/14/2017 7:42:39 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

But congress did not pass a bill that cars get 50 MPG. Obama asked EPA to come up win the new(ridiculous) standards. They call it an “agreement”.


16 posted on 01/14/2017 7:46:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Gen.Blather

>Here is my understanding of how it works. Congress passes a bill that, for example, all cars must get 50 miles per gallon by 2030. They assign the authority to write that law into regulations to the EPA (or other appropriate agency.) The EPA then generates a mountain of regulations that they feel will be needed to meet the intent of the law. Those regulations have the force of law. Violations of the law can be fined or involved prison terms, depending.

The federal bureaucracy long against stopped caring about the letter of the law and started creating regulations with no basis in law. For example the FDA has made using your own adult stem cells to illegal without a single law to cite. It’s greatly retarded the research and distribution of the biggest medical breakthrough of our age without any law backing it up.


79 posted on 01/14/2017 9:48:18 AM PST by RedWulf (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!)
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To: Gen.Blather
Here is my understanding of how it works. Congress passes a bill that, for example, all cars must get 50 miles per gallon by 2030. They assign the authority to write that law into regulations to the EPA...

The current standards were made up by the EPA, Congress didn't pass them. The EPA has no Constitutional authority to make up standards.

86 posted on 01/14/2017 12:17:48 PM PST by FreeReign
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