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US move to secure election systems meets criticism
Associated Press ^ | January 9, 2017 | By TAMI ABDOLLAH

Posted on 01/09/2017 9:40:44 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A last-minute decision by the Obama administration to designate election systems as critical infrastructure drew intense criticism from state and federal elections organizations on Monday.

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson announced the move Friday with 30 minutes' notice to the National Association of Secretaries of State and U.S. Election Assistance Commission, an independent bipartisan federal agency that develops voluntary voting guidelines and certifies voting systems.

Officials at both agencies are criticizing the department for what they said was a failure to work with state officials to fully answer their questions about the designation before making the change.

"We're having trouble understanding exactly what they're going to do, that we're not already doing," Connecticut Secretary of State Denise W. Merrill, who heads the national secretaries association, told The Associated Press. "States were already doing much of this (security work) themselves using very different products. . ."

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TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: election; elections

1 posted on 01/09/2017 9:40:44 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee
"We're having trouble understanding exactly what they're going to do, that we're not already doing,"

Why, fixing elections so Democrats don't lose, you silly goose.

2 posted on 01/09/2017 9:45:27 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Those that can, do, those that can't, work in the Beltway.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

They can pretend to secure the electoral system, but they won’t let us require voter ID. It is another bureaucratic power grab at the Federal level. It won’t hurt right away, but in 8 or 12 years, it will be a means to completely disenfranchise anyone who is not a Democrat.


3 posted on 01/09/2017 9:46:36 PM PST by webheart (All comments are considered to be sarcasm unless otherwise noted.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Put another way: soros wants more security on the election system.


4 posted on 01/09/2017 9:47:47 PM PST by thinden
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Reverse this power grab in 9 days. LIB fascist federalists.


5 posted on 01/09/2017 9:50:14 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Reverse this power grab in 9 days. LIB fascist federalists.


6 posted on 01/09/2017 9:51:32 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: webheart

Can this be un done?


7 posted on 01/09/2017 9:57:24 PM PST by funfan
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To: webheart

Without clearing the voting lists and starting fresh, allowing voter ID, or making duplication voting impossible.....then it’s just fake work. It means nothing.


8 posted on 01/09/2017 9:59:05 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I emailed several in our General Assembly when I first read about this. I hope a bunch of them will confront our idiot governor, who just looooooves federal money, and SoS and tell them NO WAY IN H***!


9 posted on 01/09/2017 10:07:26 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
TAMI ABDOLLAH ???
Seriously?

Elections are the exclusive purview of the states.
Tami, show us where, in the enumerated powers of the Constitution (Our Constitution, not the trash queeran) the executive is empowered to have any say whatsoever in elections.

Sorry. Just go away quietly, while you can.

10 posted on 01/09/2017 10:18:56 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This after the DHS attempted to hack Georgia’s election systems and Obama assured us that the election couldn’t be hacked.

Red diaper doper babies are gonna revolt, even if they become prezzydunce.


11 posted on 01/09/2017 10:21:01 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The COM-Left is saddened by the death of the Communist dictator Fidel Castro. No surprise there.)
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To: webheart
Virginia has a voter ID requirement, and yet Northern VA still manages to find trunk loads of Dem votes.

I like the idea of a required voter card that you surrender with you vote, that gets mailed back to you official address after the election. Not a fool proof plan but better then what we have.

12 posted on 01/09/2017 10:25:04 PM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!! (this post approved by the NSA))
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To: a fool in paradise

To paraphrase Stalin:

I don’t care who votes as long as I get to count the ballots.


13 posted on 01/09/2017 10:33:01 PM PST by alpo (Resist we much)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Every Secretary of State from each state should sue.


14 posted on 01/09/2017 10:40:42 PM PST by onona (Keeping the faith will be our new directive for the republic !)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

but 0bama says there is nothing wrong with the system, so what does he need to fix?


15 posted on 01/09/2017 10:48:05 PM PST by Brown Deer (Making America Great Again!)
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To: DYngbld
In other nations the US pushes the use of a photo ID and a purple finger dyed with ink that won't come off for days. That's what we need here. With the dyed finger, everyone has to stick the same finger in the dye, there are few ways around the fact that you already voted once.

If India can give every eligible voter in the country a photo ID to use when they vote and afford enough purple ink for their elections, I feel sure we can match that degree of security for a far lower expenditure than whatever scam the Federal Government is proposing.

16 posted on 01/09/2017 11:11:10 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Dem’s goal is to re-create Venezuela elections integrity here...so that Dems never lose an election, no matter how the people vote.

Dems double downing on criminal corruption.


17 posted on 01/09/2017 11:25:48 PM PST by OldArmy52 (The Democrats have not been this upset since 1863 when the Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

elections aren’t federally controlled- i knew damn well as soon as the liberals began a concerted effort to denounce the results ‘because of russian hacking’ that something like this was going to come along-

Trump MUST bring this to the supreme court if it goes through to put a stop to this freakin nonsense


18 posted on 01/10/2017 12:36:25 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Rashputin

“With the dyed finger, everyone has to stick the same finger in the dye, there are few ways around the fact that you already voted once.”
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There was a Mark Steyn column during the primary, and he mentioned he was somewhere abroad (forgot where) and they use ultra-violet finger dye. When you go to vote, you put your hand under a black light.

I like this method, as there are some folks who invoke the right to NOT vote. It allows them to not be singled out for their (albeit poor) decision to abstain from voting without reprisal. Well, unless folks at work or wherever are walking around with black lights (which I could see in certain union halls or school faculty lounges).


19 posted on 01/10/2017 12:57:47 AM PST by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

there is a push by myself and a few others to provide integrity to the vote. this will result in living citizens only voting once in their home district.

obviously, the dems want to get out in front of it and try to wrestle control so they can provide an avenue through which to cheat.

unfortunately for them, done properly w/ voter-ids, facial recognition, digital signatures and a public blockchain voting database per district, there is no way to cheat.

we just have to insure it’s implemented properly


20 posted on 01/10/2017 12:58:46 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp
I hadn't heard of that but if the dye used is of the same sort as the purple dye they use so that it cannot be removed easily and basically has to wear off over time, I like it even better than the purple dye.

Thanks for the info, I'm going to look that up.

Regards

21 posted on 01/10/2017 1:37:17 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Every stae issues voter photo ID, and paper ballots required in all states.

That secures the US electoral system.


22 posted on 01/10/2017 2:17:33 AM PST by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Also, you’re states, so everything you do is wrong. Only the federal government is at all competent to do anything. Why, you all were actually not allowing men to marry each other until we stepped in, and just look at what happened at the last election. You allowed Hillary to lose! And Russia to help her lose! We do foreign policy, and only we get to interfere in other countries’ elections.


23 posted on 01/10/2017 2:19:38 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Shouldn’t these @ssholes be working on their resumes or cruising glory holes?


24 posted on 01/10/2017 2:29:24 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?!?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Well, if it is critical infrastructure, one of the key elements to that is security, and one of the key elements of Security is authentication.

Let’s use it to institute Voter ID.


25 posted on 01/10/2017 4:16:39 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: thinden

Put another way: soros wants more security on [his] election system. There fixed it!


26 posted on 01/10/2017 7:21:37 AM PST by joegoeny
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To: joegoeny

thx for thefix joe..

his election system had a breakdown this year when the light of day was shined on it


27 posted on 01/10/2017 8:27:53 AM PST by thinden
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Obama is going for complete usurpation.


28 posted on 01/10/2017 11:45:04 AM PST by Crucial
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Its obvious they want to rig the elections. They don’t have the power to do this. Its all a lie.


29 posted on 01/10/2017 11:52:20 AM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Its obvious they want to rig the elections. They don’t have the power to do this. Its all a lie.


30 posted on 01/10/2017 12:01:29 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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