Posted on 01/03/2017 10:37:25 AM PST by AC Beach Patrol
“Completely nonsensical.”
No, it absolutely makes sense. And that’s probably why you won’t deal with what I posted.
“It is just a repeat of the same admonishment found in Deuteronomy 12, and both of them cover every word Yehova has given us.”
No. Read the actual quote: “18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Did you see these references? 1) “prophecy of this book” - not all of scripture is a prophecy - but Revelation is. 2) “plagues that are written in this book” - not all of scripture discusses plagues - but Revelation does. 3) “book of life, and out of the holy city” - that’s a clear reference to what came immediately in the same chapter and earlier in Revelation. “Book of life” is mentioned only in Philippians and Revelation, for instance.
What I said is indisputable. And you’re proving it.
“He gave us nothing but scripture, so sola Scriptura is just common sense.”
He gave us much more than “nothing but scripture”. If you knew the Bible, ironically, you would know this. Read John 14:26, for instance to know what else God gave us.
“There are no “special people” nor is there any secret knowledge.”
Jesus picked 12. If that isn’t “special”, what is? And clearly you must believe in “secret knowledge” or else you could post at least one verse that mentions or describes sola scriptura - but you can’t. So you must believe in it based on some sort of “secret knowledge”. Did you figure it out with a CrackerJack box decoder ring or some other Protestant whimsy?
What about the Council of Nicea?
“When the Roman Church was following Jesus Christ and was led by His spirit, they did something very good: Assembled the New Testament Cannon!”
New Covenant Artillery?
Oops. Canon.
“(the Roman church never followed Yeshua. They slaughtered his followers by the millions)”
In the warped twilight mind of the Protestant anti-Catholic delusions like that probably sound reasonable.
The council of Nicea led the charge against the word of Yehova.
It was all about men and the ideas and commandments of men.
Creeds were put in place of the word of Yehova.
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How erudite!
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“Oops. Canon.”
So if you credit the Roman Church with assembling the New Testament Canon, what do you do about the following two issues:
1) Before the Roman Church assembled the New Testament canon - to use your terminology - it was already long since praying for the dead (in East and West actually). If you trust the Church on the canon and say the Church was following God, how can you say that while denying the whole meaning of prayers for the dead when was happening before and during the time of the assembling of the NT canon?
2) If you trust the Church on the assembling of the NT canon, why not the Old canon as well?
My annual post on a religious thread is officially done for 2017.
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What you posted is the ravings of the adversary’s crew.
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The keeping of all of the scriptures (oracles of God in Paul’s parlance) is given to the House of Judah, not to Roman pagans.
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Where do you get that? Interesting that Paul was not from the Tribe of Judah? Nor did Paul or Jesus submit to their authority. Additionally, why did Jesus write to the Churches of Asia Minor and not the “house of Judah”?
God can use a Donkey if He so desires
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Not the tribe of Judah, the House of Judah.
The renewed covenant is with The two houses of Jacob, Judah, and Israel. (Jer 31:31)
Israel is currently spread around the world, while Judah is still essentially together and organized.
The house of Judah are Yehova’s teachers presently, as prophesied.
Gentiles are, in large numbers, going to believers within the House of Judah saying “we have inherited lies” (Jer 16:19)
Those lies came from the councils, and have been propagated through the churches.
Yeshua preached only Torah, and the councils preached only man.
Paul stated clearly in his letter to the Romans that the oracles of Yehova were the responsibility of Judah.
“What you posted is the ravings of the adversary’s crew.”
No, I just posted the truth. You apparently can’t refute it.
“The keeping of all of the scriptures (oracles of God in Paul’s parlance) is given to the House of Judah, not to Roman pagans.”
If that were the case, then there wouldn’t be a complete New Testament since Luke wasn’t a Jew and not from the “House of Judah” if that’s the term you want to use instead of “Jew”.
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>> “ why did Jesus write to the Churches of Asia Minor and not the “house of Judah?” <<
Judah was blinded at that time.
There is now a definable contingent of The House of Judah that has found their way, and are teaching Torah to lost, but truth seeking christians.
Torah is the source of the righteousness (garment) we must wear to the wedding feast (as called out in the parables)
The time is now. We are just months from the 70th Sabbath of Daniel’s prophecy (Tishri 1 6017).
The Philadelphians are “watching” as demanded in Rev 3:3.
The churchians are content to let him come as a thief. They think they can wield Yehova’s grace as a shield against his word.
Good luck on that.
“God can use a Donkey if He so desires”
He can. What no one can apparently do is get the donkey to answer the following two questions:
1) Before the Roman Church assembled the New Testament canon - to use your terminology - it was already long since praying for the dead (in East and West actually). If you trust the Church on the canon and say the Church was following God, how can you say that while denying the whole meaning of prayers for the dead when was happening before and during the time of the assembling of the NT canon?
2) If you trust the Church on the assembling of the NT canon, why not the Old canon as well?
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Your “New Testament” is a collection of apples and oranges, not of scripture.
Pieces thereof may be of his word, but other pieces are proven not to be.
The “New Testament” is really the Renewed Testament and is not a collection of letters; it is recorded in Torah and is not changeable.
There is no evidence in the word to prove who Luke was or was not. The original writings in the Acts are all centered on how the apostles kept Torah, and taught it to others.
Looks like whoever Luke was, he knew Torah was the key.
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Only a complete fool would trust the pagan Romans on anything.
That is why Paul made it clear that the Oracles were committed to Judah. They were blinded about Messiach, but they diligently kept the Word of Yehova.
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