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With ObamaCare Collapsing, What Do We Do Next?
Forbes ^ | November 29, 2016 in Forbes Magazine | Steve Forbes

Posted on 12/29/2016 12:17:27 PM PST by Jim W N

WITH THE OBAMACARE exchanges collapsing and millions of people being battered by ghastly increases in health insurance premiums, what's to be done?

Forgetting that socialism doesn't work--never mind that it's deeply immoral--Democrats are addicted to the idea of government-dominated health care. They see ObamaCare's terminal crisis as the perfect opportunity to realize their age-old ambition of socialized medicine, hence the current mouthing of such slogans as "a single-payer system," "Medicare for all" and the offer to consumers of "a public option," i.e., subsidized policies from a health insurance company run by Uncle Sam.

Republicans should be ready with proposals that will help health care ultimately become a normal market, where patients are in charge, not such third-party payers as health insurers, Medicare and Medicaid. Currently, the patient isn't the "customer," which is why so many thousands of them die unnecessarily from infections received at hospitals or from medical errors. The current system works to make the patient as passive as possible. A consumer revolution won't be achieved overnight, but several ideas will help.

-- Nationwide shopping for health insurance. -- Transparency for prices. -- Transparency of performance. -- Equalized tax treatment. -- Freedom of choice. -- No more buy-this-or-else mandates.

These measures would be immensely effective and popular. They would go a long way toward giving the American health care market the attributes we take for granted in others: cost-reducing productivity and innovation, accountability and genuine choices, instead of the one-size-fits-all structure we're being squeezed into today, which will lead to more and more deadly rationing.

Other changes are needed, but we'll never get the free-market, pro-patient ball rolling if reformers try to do everything at once.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


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The ultimate answer is getting healthcare back on the free market where it used to be and was the envy of the world.

The measures discussed in the Forbes article (detail in link below) "would be immensely effective and popular. They would go a long way toward giving the American health care market the attributes we take for granted in others: cost-reducing productivity and innovation, accountability and genuine choices, instead of the one-size-fits-all structure we're being squeezed into today, which will lead to more and more deadly rationing.

"Other changes are needed, but we'll never get the free-market, pro-patient ball rolling if reformers try to do everything at once."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2016/11/02/with-obamacare-collapsing-what-do-we-do-next/#1bfac7477b69

1 posted on 12/29/2016 12:17:27 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

What Do We Do Next?

Free

Market


2 posted on 12/29/2016 12:20:18 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Jim 0216

Put everyone associated with it’s implementation in prison for the rest of their treasonous lives, then carry out the ideas in post #1.


3 posted on 12/29/2016 12:22:01 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Jim 0216

See if your vet is taking new patients?


4 posted on 12/29/2016 12:24:25 PM PST by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Jim 0216

Toss it and its’ namesake into the ash heap of history.


5 posted on 12/29/2016 12:28:25 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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0dungaCare was designed to collapse in 2017 so Hillary could make her pleas for Single Payer as the fix.. OOOooops!

Looks like Trump got elected, so THE LEFT WILL BLAME THE COLLAPSE ON HIM.

6 posted on 12/29/2016 12:33:52 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: Jim 0216

A couple of hours ago, I just told BCBS that I wasn’t renewing my policy for 2017. Their ‘bronze’ plan is unaffordable, doesn’t cover much of anything and has a deductible of $14k....................


7 posted on 12/29/2016 12:39:20 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?............)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

They can ‘blame’ all they like, but people all over the country damn well know better....................


8 posted on 12/29/2016 12:40:17 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?............)
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To: Jim 0216

What Do We Do Next?
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What’s this “we” sh*t Lone Ranger?


9 posted on 12/29/2016 12:43:03 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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To: b4its2late

I remember some of us getting together and shooting rats at the dump.


10 posted on 12/29/2016 12:43:13 PM PST by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and : domestic")
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To: Red Badger

“WITH THE OBAMACARE exchanges collapsing and millions of people being battered by ghastly increases in health insurance premiums, what’s to be done?”

Follow the money and bring everyone who participated in this fraud up on charges and convict them to the fullest extent of the law.


11 posted on 12/29/2016 12:44:14 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Too. Much. Winning.)
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To: Jim 0216

Those seem like good recommendations. Also need to remove all barriers to competition by insurance companies. Let the market decide. Put caps on liability for healthcare providers so docs aren’t spending money on unnecessary tests just to cover their butts, and to limit the liability due to malpractice or other factors. Nobody can put a value on a human life and all loss of life is unfortunate, but money is not the solution. Neither is allowing laywers to gorge themselves at an unlimited trough of money. Just put a limit on it and that’s it.

A doctor friend also said they need more flexibility to intervene earlier to avoid catastrophic health issues and associated costs. His example was a kid who is say 200 pounds in the 6th grade due to poor diet and parenting. If that kid continues on the path he/she has about 99% probability for diabetes, coronary problems, and all the mobility problems that come with morbid obesity, all of which will entail hundreds of thousands - even millions of dollars for treatment. Early intervention would be effective in many cases and he claims that now that smoking has been reversed, there is no other single factor that could have an imeediate and direct impact on lowering healthcare costs.


12 posted on 12/29/2016 12:44:40 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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Hopefully they will bring back my high deductible low cost plan with an HSA.

It was 100 a month to cover me and my husband. We could put 6,500 a year in the HSA to cover deductibles and co-pays.

We rarely used it up to the deductible limit and so the money in the HSA built up.

13 posted on 12/29/2016 12:47:35 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Jim 0216

Remember in the 1960’s when even pregnancy was not covered because it was voluntary?

Step one: Stop covering voluntary medical treatments.


14 posted on 12/29/2016 12:48:19 PM PST by donna ('God's standards, like it or not, are the basis for the laws that led to western civilization.)
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To: Red Badger

Well, I do agree this election symbolizes an awakening. And if it weren’t for a large percentage of females FINALLY WAKING UP TO THE DEMOCRATS TACTICS OF PREYING UPON THE STUPID, Trump would not have been elected. I do think God had a hand in this. He hasn’t given up on the country HE created.


15 posted on 12/29/2016 12:49:39 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: Jim 0216

Yes, what is next? We lost our coverage last spring and nothing now to restart it. Because of income, Obamacare options are prohibitively expensive, plus the deductibles are ridiculous. No meaningful commercial options thanks to Obamacare. We’re self pay, which is find for simple things, but catastrophic is beyond us. If we were only illegal aliens...


16 posted on 12/29/2016 12:52:03 PM PST by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp: Replace Ryan & McConnell; Primary Lyn' Ted and others.)
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To: Jim 0216

Gosh, who possibly has any possible ideas? Who? Like...

Tort reform.
Fraud busting.
Pharma price busting.
FDA streamlining.
Competition, open pricing.
Catastrophic coverage options.
Insurance forms streamlining.
Health Savings Accounts.
Wellness care, holistics.
Alternative treatments and methods.

Wait, wait, I remembered all these from the early 1990’s, from Republicans...


17 posted on 12/29/2016 12:53:59 PM PST by polymuser (There's a big basket of deportables.)
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what’s to be done?

Apply for medicaid...as MILLIONS already did thru Obamacare


18 posted on 12/29/2016 12:56:02 PM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: Jim 0216

I reject the premise that all Americans must have routine healthcare insurance, which is how the debate is being framed, at the price of higher taxes for those of us who do. Life is a series of choices and if you choose responsibly you will likely obtain reasonably priced health insurance. But if you are irresponsible in life you probably won’t. One more instance where Liberals take from the responsible citizens and give to the irresponsible ones to even up outcomes.


19 posted on 12/29/2016 12:56:38 PM PST by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: vigilence
The reason 0dunga focused FIRST on gov't health care for all before anything else early in his first term is because next on his agenda was DESTROYING AS MANY JOBS AS POSSIBLE IN THE UNITED STATES.

Sick and evil, YES. 0dunga's ultimate goal was to SHUT AMERICA DOWN FOR HIS DREAM OF A MARXIST UTOPIA RESET. Almost got there, didn't he.

20 posted on 12/29/2016 1:06:28 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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