Since you don’t believe anyone but a criminal like Julian Assange, and only him, not open to other opinions or facts, then it is going to be very difficult, or impossible, to hold a conversation with you on what has happened and how it got the way it is.
Cyber hacking has been going on since the invention of computers, the invention of the net, and the governments, all of them, using them for communication and storage. Here’s a source coming from Assange’s product you seem to trust, Wikipdia.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/politics/how-russians-hacked-the-wh/
Here’s an interesting article that didn’t tell the whole story about submarine hacking of communication and computers. It is being done by us in this article. But I can promise you the Russians are playing the game along with the Chinese just outside our ports also. I live in Tacoma WA, just outside JBLM where I retired. In our area we also have the nuclear sub base at Bangor, the nuclear attack ships at Bremerton, and the navy brain box in Seattle. There have been foreign subs outside our control areas on the coast hacking into them for years. And we know it and hide info giving them enough lies to make what they are getting untrustworthy. We know they’re there, and they know we know. It’s a big game but we play it rather than go to war.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/07/29/america-is-hacking-other-countries-with-stealthy-submarines/?utm_term=.f22c879280e4
The assimilation of information, even when it is misdirected like the DNC break in by Russia, by the media explanation, is a result of trying to use information to blame the wrong guy for the action. I firmly believe Russia was sure Hilary was going to win based upon their believing the hype, and wanted to get a step up by discovering her policies not published yet, or were not going to be, by hammering into the DNC and her personal server in her basement. But she didn’t win, so the info they got would, most likely have little to do with the immediate future. Too bad, so sad.
I hope you take the time to open up your theories to using a number of sources to get a cross reference so you can pinpoint down a theory that is understood by more than just one source like Assange, who is currently hiding in an Ecuadorian embassy. On 16 August 2012, Foreign Minister Patiño announced that Ecuador was granting Assange political asylum because of the threat represented by the United States secret investigation against him and several calls for assassination from many American politicians. Assange was granted asylum from being extradited to Sweden where he would have stood trial for sexual assault and rape, But his fear of being further extradited to the US has kept him living in the embassy in London. He has almost no where to go and if he steps outside the embassy, he is subject to arrest for violating his bail options.
.Assange and his supporters claim he is concerned not about any proceedings in Sweden as such, but that his deportation to Sweden could lead to politically motivated deportation to the United States, where he could face severe penalties, up to the death sentence, for his activities related to WikiLeaks. Thise activities are related from Russian hacking of private and government servers containing sensitive information.
The world has come a long way since the sperry vacumn tubes. And not all of it is public or legally been determined illegal. But breaking into any computer for the purpose of harvesting sensitive material for any reason is spying, period. And whether it was done on her basement server in her home that she used stupidly for sensitive high level information storage and passing government business using talk around or literally patching and pasting to hide the security level markings, is espionage by her to do it when she was briefed not to and was aware of the risk of invasion. And to be fair, the Russians, who we know grabbed it, along with many others that play this game, should send her a thank you.Christmas card. I have friends that get them from her and Bill as a covert reminder to keep their mouth shut about what they know. And we all know what happens to those that don’t.
Have a happy new year.
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I didn’t say I didn’t believe anyone except Assange, who in my view is not a criminal. If you do your own research, you can see that the charges (charges, not convictions) against him are trumped-up nonsense promulgated by a CIA front company (Todd and Clare) on scant evidence.
And I definitely don’t believe CNN or the NY Times. They have time and again acted as propagandists for the Deep State and its agenda, whether that is an Iran Nuke deal or war in Iraq.
I don’t believe anonymous sources, especially when reported by fake news sources such as CNN. Names, titles, and credentials, please. I need to see source materials rather than taking someone’s word.
You say:
>>But I can promise you the Russians are playing the game along with the Chinese just outside our ports also.
How much money will you pay me personally if your promise is broken? Probably for less than a few million US dollars I wouldn’t believe a “promise”.
Original source materials establishing an clear causal relationship? Now that’s another story.
The US would be better off today had US citizens demanded evidence for the claims made by the US intelligence community in the Tonkin Gulf affair. Or, for that matter, the claim of deployable WMDs in Iraq, or the claims of genocide in Kosovo in 1998-99.