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Recounts or no, US elections are still vulnerable to hacking
Associated Press ^ | Dec 26, 2016 9:13 AM EST | Michael Rubinkam and Frank Bajak

Posted on 12/26/2016 7:01:17 AM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

“It not he who votes that counts, but he who counts the votes.” - Joseph Stalin (or Uncle Joe to liberals)


21 posted on 12/26/2016 7:30:46 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: keving

Exactly right. They don’t want to fix what is really broken.


22 posted on 12/26/2016 7:30:46 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: Olog-hai

Easy....Just search people for floppies when they walk into the polling place.


23 posted on 12/26/2016 7:38:49 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

They obviously don’t understand computer programming. A machine that prints a paper receipt could be hacked to print out what the voter had entered and then record something different in the official tally. The IBM executive’s statement that the paperless machines are harder to check is a fallacy. If the paperless machines can be hacked, the ones that produce a paper trail can be hacked as well. It would not be a complicated programming task to tally a vote one way and print out a different vote. That is why I never liked electronic voting. Without having non-electronic input into the machine, there is no way to prove how the voter really voted.

Plus, in my district in PA, we are given the choice to use a machine readable paper ballot or vote on the strictly electronic machines. I always choose the paper ballot, even though it takes longer to fill in all the little boxes. We get a tear off receipt from the paper ballot, but I don’t see the purpose of that. I would like to receive a machine printed receipt that shows how I voted, even though I know that it could be falsified. Most people choose the paperless electronic voting because it is easier to use than filling in little boxes with a ball point pen.

I think that, if we are going to vote using electronic machines, machine-readable paper balloting is the best method because the paper ballots are still available to be examined and cross checked. I think the paper ballots could be made easier to use by having a special marker to fill them out rather than just using ball point pens.


24 posted on 12/26/2016 7:41:44 AM PST by itsnevertoolate (Liberal, progressive Democrats can never see beyond their mascot)
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To: MNDude
Go back to....you go to the polls and wait in line...no early voting or absentee (except for emergency or military).

No pre-result polls.

Make voting a 3 day thing....Sunday Monday Tuesday after the first Tuesday in November.

People wait in long lines and walk miles to vote in other countries. We want instant. Sorry...our forefathers went miles to vote, too.

25 posted on 12/26/2016 7:43:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai
I want the massive difference between voter signatures and votes counted in Michigan precincts investigated by the new Attorney General next year. That's not hacking, that's good old fashioned ballot box stuffing.

The ideal would be scannable, individually numbered paper ballots to be filled out by the voter. These would be scanned in and a second paper record printed, verified and retained in the scanner to make sure what was on the paper ballot matches the scanned result. Then both the original paper ballot, the electronic count and the printed result are retained. The individual numbering is there to prevent the poll workers from repeatedly scanning the "correct" ballots many times. At the end of the day the number of unused ballots, ballots cast, electronic ballot counts and number of signatures better match or the local precinct will get a butthurting audit by the state.

My county's ballots come close except the original voting is by touch screen so there is no original paper ballot, just the electronic count and retained printed verification copy.

26 posted on 12/26/2016 7:44:18 AM PST by KarlInOhio (" T'was the witch of November come stealin' " And who could the stealing Witch of November be? Hmm?)
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To: ViLaLuz

A paper trail............

PLUS

State-Issued PHOTO ID-—will pretty much do the job.


27 posted on 12/26/2016 7:50:03 AM PST by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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To: Olog-hai

Fake “news”.


28 posted on 12/26/2016 8:00:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Olog-hai

Prove it.


29 posted on 12/26/2016 8:01:30 AM PST by sport
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To: Olog-hai

I have posted several times about national voting day, where all states are voting at the same time. ALL polls open at the same time and close at the same time (except far flung places like Hawaii).

Everyone (except essential personnel) gets the day OFF so that the minor time restrictions are not a factor, plus other details.

This would reduce the opportunity for voting fraud and exit poll results should be banned although the ACTUAL votes could be tallied much sooner and mostly at the same time. A deadline could be imposed to diminish the chance of cheating. Polls would CLOSE on time. Still waiting in line?.. you should have taken voting more seriously AND we gave you the day OFF!

That was step one, THE VOTE

Now step two THE COUNT

I don’t have the answers for this, but I like the idea of verifying, online, for myself, how my vote was recorded.
I like paper trails. I like digital scanning machines to have ZERO, and I mean ZERO capability of connecting to the internet. Votes could be posted online separately after counting.

We have to get completely away from voting machines being able to be hacked or rigged. It just can’t be allowed to happen.


30 posted on 12/26/2016 8:04:26 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: ViLaLuz
Go back to the mechanical voting machines with the little cranks

. That is no way to talk about those sweet little blue haired poll workers...

31 posted on 12/26/2016 8:11:47 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I held my nose, voted for Trump, then took a shower. All to defeat evil.)
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To: Olog-hai

Hacking is only a small part of election fraud.


32 posted on 12/26/2016 8:13:01 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Olog-hai

Paperless electronic, early, absentee and no ID required voting are designed for voter fraud so why worry about some hacking?


33 posted on 12/26/2016 8:14:07 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Olog-hai

How about fraud in Dim strongholds, especially the inner cities, AP?


34 posted on 12/26/2016 8:22:10 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: Olog-hai

I wanna know how in the hell can you hack something that is not connected to the internet?


35 posted on 12/26/2016 8:26:16 AM PST by crz
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To: Zakeet

I hear this is actually true, only they changed his name slightly to avoid suspicion. Fido Castro.


36 posted on 12/26/2016 8:34:05 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: faucetman

All precincts must release the results at the same time. So the Rats don’t know how many votes are needed. It is no coincidence there are always Rat areas who’s results are not known yet.


37 posted on 12/26/2016 8:46:04 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Olog-hai

Good - let’s have the entire election results examined. Bet we find a whole bunch more Detroits where there were move vote cast then there were voters. And let’s see who those votes were for!!


38 posted on 12/26/2016 9:06:56 AM PST by KosmicKitty (Waiting for inspirations)
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To: Olog-hai

Bull.

The only problem in PA is dem ballot stuffing in Philly.


39 posted on 12/26/2016 10:11:11 AM PST by Impy (Toni Preckwinkle for Ambassador to the Sun)
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