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New Zealand meeting calls into question White House narrative on role in UN vote
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 12/24/2016 | Michael Wilner

Posted on 12/25/2016 6:18:39 AM PST by ducttape45

The US publicly told its partners on the Security Council that it would consider each draft resolution on its merit, but says that it never indicated how it would vote– up until the vote itself.

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration insists it was disciplined in its silence over how it would ultimately vote on resolutions related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that ultimately reached the UN Security Council, where it holds veto power.

Hours before such a vote was set to take place– on a resolution condemning Israel's settlement activity– one senior administration official told The Jerusalem Post that the president's team "was not involved in formulating the resolution, nor have we promoted it."

"We have not communicated to any UN Security Council members how the United States would vote if the resolution comes before the UN Security Council," the official said.

But the Israeli government has publicly accused the Obama administration of "colluding" with its drafters to ensure that the right resolution with just the right language came forward for a vote. The US publicly told its partners on the Security Council that it would consider each draft resolution on its merit, but says that it never indicated how it would vote– up until the vote itself, which took place on Friday afternoon. The US abstained, allowing the resolution to pass.

The Israeli government provided no clear evidence to back its claim that the Obama administration worked to promote the effort. But one public engagement by Secretary of State John Kerry last month may offer some clues as to how Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government reached its conclusion. (Israel, Palestinian ambassadors to UN give speeches before vote on settlement resolution)

Kerry visited New Zealand on November 13, shortly after the US presidential election, and took part in "deep" conversation over how its government– which holds a non-permanent seat on the Security Council until the end of this calendar year– could engage in a UN-related initiative on the Middle East peace process.

"It is a conversation we are engaged in deeply and we've spent some time talking to Secretary Kerry about where the US might go on this," New Zealand's foreign minister, Murray McCully, told local reporters after the meeting, according to the New Zealand Herald. "It is something that is still in play."

"I think there are some very important decisions that the Obama administration is going to have to make in its lame-duck period on this issue," he added.

Egypt drafted the resolution that ultimately condemned Israel's settlement enterprise as an illegal operation contrary to the pursuit of peace with the Palestinians. The resolution also condemned incitement to violence by the Palestinian authorities.

The Egyptians coordinated on the language with the Palestinian Authority, whose chief negotiator, Saeb Erekat, met with Kerry at the State Department on December 12. Israeli officials believe it was at this meeting that Kerry first relayed the president's willingness to abstain.

The White House said on Friday that US President Barack Obama had not decided how to proceed until hours before the vote.

Last minute, however, the Egyptian government pulled its own draft– due to pressure from the Israeli government, according to Western diplomatic sources, and after President-elect Donald Trump called publicly and privately for the resolution to be scrapped.

The draft was then dusted off by New Zealand, which formally introduced the resolution for a vote.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Egypt; Israel; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
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To: Piranha; Ethan Clive Osgoode

I’m off to enjoy a peaceful morning celebrating the birth of Christ. But it has given me a brief pleasure to wake up and join in the attack against what clearly is an anti-semitic, British troll, the WORST kind of troll and one that should be forever banned from FR.

God Bless you all.


61 posted on 12/25/2016 7:53:25 AM PST by keat
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To: jjotto

Jarret was born in Iran, speaks Farsi, etc. My post only made reference to the fact that she is Iranian. And she is.


62 posted on 12/25/2016 7:53:41 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: af_vet_1981

http://www.weaselzippers.us/

Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Christmas message.


63 posted on 12/25/2016 7:53:47 AM PST by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

There is a difference between a figleaf of support and buying off the American Jews.

$40 billion is not a lot of money for Israel’s defense at the moment due to the money that was sent to Iran, which has an avowed mission of destroying Israel.

What post number 8 means is that Obama was doing his same old fraudulent action, trying to trick people (in this case Jewish Americans) into believing that he is continuing America’s long relationship with Israel, while really cutting off its legs.

In post number 12 you seem to be saying that Obama has to pay off the Jews for support, and so authorized the $$ for Israel’s defense as a form of blackmail.

For your information, the new $40 billion payment requires the money to be spent in the US as a way to weaken the Israeli military industry and it forbids Israel from going to Congress at a time of emergency in order to seek more funds.


64 posted on 12/25/2016 7:57:58 AM PST by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: keat
an anti-semitic, British troll, the WORST kind of troll

It's one thing to be a mere bridge-dwelling troll... quite another to be a BRITISH troll.

65 posted on 12/25/2016 7:58:20 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Popman
You cannot be that clueless to think the whole group known as Christians are all John Hagee fans...

Well, no, of course not. But most of the theologically confused lunatics who worship a foreign secular nation as a false god ARE fans of John Hagee.

66 posted on 12/25/2016 8:02:03 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
please, satanists saying they admire and draw from Rand makes her a satanist is equivalent to saying Trump is a KKK Neo-NAZI because some of them voted for him...

surly you must have more proof than some silly article saying they agree with her, right?

well, i'm STILL waiting for a reply.

67 posted on 12/25/2016 8:05:07 AM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: Chode
well, i'm STILL waiting for a reply.

A reply to what?

68 posted on 12/25/2016 8:05:51 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Obviously you derive no meaning from the re-establishment of the Jewish state in 1948 or its miraculous victories since then.

Also obviously you have not been to Israel and had a chance to absorb the religious atmosphere that pervades so much of life there. There are many, many religious Jews in Iarael and their numbers are increasing in numbers and percentage of the population. Also, the Christian population and Christian tourists are treated with great respect.


69 posted on 12/25/2016 8:06:31 AM PST by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Obviously you derive no meaning from the re-establishment of the Jewish state in 1948 or its miraculous victories since then.

Also obviously you have not been to Israel and had a chance to absorb the religious atmosphere that pervades so much of life there. There are many, many religious Jews in Iarael and their numbers are increasing in numbers and percentage of the population. Also, the Christian population and Christian tourists are treated with great respect.


70 posted on 12/25/2016 8:06:32 AM PST by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
did you not read post #67? feh...
71 posted on 12/25/2016 8:13:06 AM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: Chode
did you not read post #67? feh...

It seems your transporter malfunctioned and you ended up in the wrong thread.

72 posted on 12/25/2016 8:15:02 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
because you call Rand a satanist and cannot produce the evidence of your claim, i'm on the wrong thread?

you seemed to know what Helicondelta was talking about in post #33 but now you are ignorant

i think you talk more sh!t than a little bit

73 posted on 12/25/2016 8:30:38 AM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

-—Well, no, of course not. But most of the theologically confused lunatics who worship a foreign secular nation as a false god ARE fans of John Hagee.-—

I would suggest you deal with your unresolved issues you have with the Hagee ministry as they neither worship Israel or are lunatics...they may have misplaced zeal toward Israel, which is far from making Israel a false god...


74 posted on 12/25/2016 8:36:53 AM PST by Popman
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To: Chode

If you turn the dial on your transporter to left a little bit, it will send you back to the thread that you think you are in.


75 posted on 12/25/2016 8:37:53 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Care to back that up with some proof?


76 posted on 12/25/2016 8:44:51 AM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Is your hatred of the JOOOOZ particularly strong this Christmas Day or are you just engaged in your standard trolling?


77 posted on 12/25/2016 8:48:20 AM PST by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: RegulatorCountry; ducttape45

His Jewish grandfather committed suicide in a Boston Hotel bathroom, from what I’ve heard.


78 posted on 12/25/2016 8:56:11 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: ducttape45

bkmrk


79 posted on 12/25/2016 8:57:16 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: NonValueAdded

Good reply. My 2¢ ....I agree.


80 posted on 12/25/2016 8:57:58 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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