Donald Trump removes Russia from list of US defense priorities

SOTT ^ | 12/21/16 | Sergey Gladysh

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Here's Trump's VP, Mike Pence, on the subject of Obama, KGB Putin, and Syria, from the Oct 5th 2016 VP debate. ...

“When Donald Trump and I observe that, as I’ve said, in Syria, in Iran, in Ukraine, that the small and bullying leader of Russia has been stronger on the world stage than this administration, that’s stating painful facts. That’s not an endorsement of Vladimir Putin — that’s an indictment of the weak and feckless leadership of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.”

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Also from the debate...

QUIJANO (Moderator): I want to turn now to Syria. Two hundred fifty thousand people, 100,000 of them children, are under siege in Aleppo, Syria. Bunker buster bombs, cluster munitions, and incendiary weapons are being dropped on them by Russian and Syrian militaries. Does the U.S. have a responsibility to protect civilians and prevent mass casualties on this scale, Governor Pence?

PENCE: The United States of America needs to begin to exercise strong leadership to protect the vulnerable citizens and over 100,000 children in Aleppo. Hillary Clinton’s top priority when she became secretary of state was the Russian reset, the Russians reset. After the Russian reset, the Russians invaded Ukraine and took over Crimea.

And the small and bullying leader of Russia is now dictating terms to the United States to the point where all the United States of America — the greatest nation on Earth — just withdraws from talks about a cease-fire while Vladimir Putin puts a missile defense system in Syria while he marshals the forces and begins — look, we have got to begin to lean into this with strong, broad-shouldered American leadership.

It begins by rebuilding our military. And the Russians and the Chinese have been making enormous investments in the military. We have the smallest Navy since 1916. We have the lowest number of troops since the end of the Second World War. We’ve got to work with Congress, and Donald Trump will, to rebuild our military and project American strength in the world.

But about Aleppo and about Syria, I truly do believe that what America ought to do right now is immediately establish safe zones, so that families and vulnerable families with children can move out of those areas, work with our Arab partners, real time, right now, to make that happen.

And secondly, I just have to tell you that the provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength. And if Russia chooses to be involved and continue, I should say, to be involved in this barbaric attack on civilians in Aleppo, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike military targets of the Assad regime to prevent them from this humanitarian crisis that is taking place in Aleppo.

There’s a broad range of other things that we ought to do, as well. We ought to deploy a missile defense shield to the Czech Republic and Poland which Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama pulled back on out of not wanting to offend the Russians back in 2009.

QUIJANO: Governor, your two minutes are up.

PENCE: We’ve just got to have American strength on the world stage. When Donald Trump becomes president of the United States, the Russians and other countries in the world will know they’re dealing with a strong American president.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/us/politics/vice-president-transcript.html

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Again, from the Oct 5, 2016 VP debate...

PENCE: What we’re dealing with is the — you know, there’s an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.

And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.

And all the while, all we do is fold our arms and say we’re not having talks anymore.

To answer your question, we just need American strength. We need to — we need to marshal the resources of our allies in the region, and in the immediate, we need to act and act now to get people out of harm’s way.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/us/politics/vice-president-transcript.html

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PUTIN'S TROLL ARMY

Documents Show How Russia's Troll Army Hit America:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-hit-america
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Kremlin pays internet trolls to flatter Putin
Ben Hoyle - Moscow
October 11 2013

Russian investigative journalists and bloggers have uncovered an army of internet trolls paid to pour invective on the Kremlin's opponents and heap praise on President Putin.

Posing as job applicants, the reporters discovered the government hacks working at a small company called the St Petersburg Internet Research Agency. ..."

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/asia/article3891720.ece
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Russian Propaganda Is Taking Over Online Comment Boards

Pamela Engel
May 4, 2014

British newspaper The Guardian notes that recently, readers have been complaining of pro-Russia propaganda being posted in the comments section of articles about Russia and Ukraine.

One reader wrote to The Guardian:

"One need only pick a Ukraine article at random, pick any point in the comments at random, and they will find themselves in a sea of incredibly aggressive and hostile users (the most obvious have accounts created since February 2014 ... but there also exist those who registered with the Guardian before the high point of the crisis) who post the most biased, inciteful [sic] pro-Kremlin, anti-western propaganda that seems as if it's taken from a template, so repetitive are the statements. Furthermore, these comments are consistently capturing inordinate numbers of 'recommends', sometimes on the order of 10 to 12 times what pro-Ukrainian comments receive."

Guardian comment moderators believe this is an orchestrated campaign.

Russia has worked hard to make people believe that the country is supporting the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine and defending those people against some type of threat. These "comment mills" play into that strategy.

Last year, The Atlantic wrote about how the Russian government apparently pays people to "sit in a room, surf the Internet, and leave sometimes hundreds of postings a day that criticize the country's opposition and promote Kremlin-backed policymakers."

This practice isn't new, according to The Atlantic. But it can stifle open discussion about political issues in Russia, giving a louder voice to those who support the Kremlin.

http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-paying-people-to-post-pro-russia-propaganda-in-comments-2014-5

[little jeremiah]

After your psycho freepmails to me, I don’t bother to read any of your comments.

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You’re a demented jackass like your fellow Putinistas.

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After your psycho freepmails to me, I don’t bother to read any of your comments.

I merely told you what I thought of you. Should I have lied?

[Grzegorz 246]

It's pure nonsense. First of all the whole “homo” nonsense is a western thing. They don't have it in China, Vietnam, Armenia or Bulgaria. In most of Africa, ME and large parts of Asia homosexuality is actually illegal. If you classify the countries by their approach to homos into:

1. homo friendly.
2. homo neutral.
3. anti-homo.

Russia will be in the second basket. So much for Russia being somehow the last line of defense against homos. In Soviet Union homosexuality was a crime, in 90’s they made it legal but don't allow any homo “benefits” - that's the common sense approach and one of few things they get it right over there. Their approach to homos was the same when Hillary was handling the reset button to them on a silver plate. So much for your “theory”.

[Grzegorz 246]

“Of course it's great that islamo-nazis are being killed in Syria.”

Russians in Syria are fighting alongside Iranians and Hezbollah, they also have Chchens as a part of their forces. Fighting ISIS is at best 10% of their effort over there. They are mainly fighting against “Syrian opposition”, which is a set of many different groups, some (”moderate islamists”) are islamo-nazis, others are much less islamo-nazis than dudes fighting on the Russian side.

Obama’s ME policy has been crap but Putin's one is surely no better, they just have a different set of “moderate islamists”.

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Pro-Hezbollah Paper: Russia, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah Form Alliance

Sept 23, 2015

A prominent pro-Hezbollah newspaper in Lebanon reported Tuesday that Russia and the terrorist organization have formed an alliance and will fight together in Syria. "The parties to the alliance are the states of Russia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq, with Lebanon's Hezbollah as the fifth party,"

Al-Akhbar Editor in Chief Ibrahim al-Amin wrote. The pact would be called the "4+1 alliance", a pun based on the P5+1 that negotiated the nuclear deal with Iran. Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran based in Lebanon and Moscow has been working with Tehran to save Bashar al-Assad's regime, even sending men and weapons to Syria.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/09/22/report-russia-partners-with-hezbollah.html

[Grzegorz 246]

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“New Cold War except Russia is the good guy!

GO PUTIN!!!!!!”

—posted on 2/1/2016, by DeathBeforeDishonor1

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LOL ! I needed to see it with my own eyes to believe. It's real 5th columnism.

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I can’t for the life of me understand why these creeps are allowed to remain on this site here all of these years posting insanity like that while attempting to influence unsuspecting freepers. Dopey libs are booted off here in a heartbeat. Meanwhile, these SOBs are far more dangerous.

[manc]

You still do not get it.

You might be pro homosexual while you are in Poland, but on this site we are not pro homosexual.

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"He seemed to me very independent, very serious, but at the same time a boy is always vulnerable. He was very sweet. I’ll be honest: I felt an urge to squeeze him like a kitten..." —Russian president Vladimir Putin, sounding like Michael Jackson

"In the footage, Putin, 53, is shown walking up to a small crowd of tourists in a Kremlin courtyard and crouching down in front of the boy, who appears to be five or six years old. As the Russian president talks with Nikita for several seconds, he tugs at the boy's shirt before finally lifting it up and kissing him on his bare stomach.

"He seemed to me very independent, very serious, but at the same time a boy is always vulnerable. He was very sweet. I'll be honest: I felt an urge to squeeze him like a kitten, and that led to the gesture that I made. There was nothing behind it really," Putin said, smiling.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/putin-explains-tummy-kiss/

[Grzegorz 246]

“You still do not get it.”

Get what ? That Russia's approach to homos is the main reason behind “troubles” in US-Russia relations ? I've just proved that it is total nonsense as their approach to homos was the same when Hillary was handling the reset button to them on a silver plate. That's how “much” your theory is worth.

“You might be pro homosexual while you are in Poland”

Your Florida is a 1000 times more “pro homosexual” than we are here. You might go and hug the couple of faggots, they are likely just behind next corner.

[Sawdring]

They use religion, nothing more. It is a time honored tradition going back thousands of years.