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NY Times calls for end to Electoral College
The Hill ^ | 12/20/16 09:00 AM EST | Rebecca Savransky

Posted on 12/20/2016 2:32:13 PM PST by Olog-hai

The New York Times is calling for an end to the Electoral College.

Americans would prefer by overwhelming majorities to elect a president using a popular vote system, the newspaper’s editorial board said in a piece published Monday.

“They understand, on a gut level, the basic fairness of awarding the nation’s highest office on the same basis as every other elected office — to the person who gets the most votes,” the editorial said. …

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; electoralcollege; fakenews; liberalmedia; nyslimes; nyt; nytimes; nytimeseditorial; realpropaganda; sorelosers; trump
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To: thorvaldr

I think they are teaching History classed different. Every article such as this says it was to protect slavery which is total BS. It was done so that rural states (which was most of them) would not be ruled by the Eastern states with a large population, and effectively having no participation in the election. The EC is a compromise between the states that are rural and urban.


61 posted on 12/20/2016 2:46:55 PM PST by nobamanomore
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To: Olog-hai

The Left cannot dispense with the electoral vote without a Constitutional Amendment.

Period.

Why does the Left hate the electoral system? The same reason they hate the Constitution. Because both go against tyranny. Both favor decentralized power and representation . Both implement our Free Constitutional Republic against the tyranny of Leftist Democracy and the tyranny of the majority.

I second the motion calling for an end to the decrepit, lying NYT.


62 posted on 12/20/2016 2:47:18 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Olog-hai

Just as their futile recounts and pathetic attempts to subvert the electors, this will never happen. Two-thirds ofthe states will not commit political suicide by approving the popular vote that would give CA, NY, FL, NJ,and TX power to select the president & VP while the other states would pay the bills. Only the stupid think that this will ever happen.


63 posted on 12/20/2016 2:47:22 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: rovenstinez

it’s the end of times


64 posted on 12/20/2016 2:47:25 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Olog-hai

Heard today that the MacDaddy or HMFIC - a Constitutional Scholar/Professor - or so they say, was befuddled why Montana had as many Senators as California and virtually saying it was ‘unfair’.

Of course he had visited all 57 states so I would imagine he is a lot smarter than the rest of us.

I have been ‘saying’ for his entire tenure that his MAIN PROBLEM is that he has to be the smartest person in the room.

Bad Idea as, in order to keep things to his liking WE ended up with the likes of Biden, Hillary, JF’nKerry etal.

Hard to be the ‘smartest person in the room’ when you tend to be one of the dumbest people on earth...


65 posted on 12/20/2016 2:47:50 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98)" "If you see a civilian in cammies -- bump into him")
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To: Olog-hai

“Americans would prefer by overwhelming majorities to elect a president using a popular vote system”

If this were true they should have no trouble passing a Constitutional Amendment making it so.

But it’s not true.

This is just the NYT sowing dissension and unrest.


66 posted on 12/20/2016 2:48:09 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Olog-hai
"Eleven states and the District of Columbia, representing 165 electoral votes, have already passed legislation to have their electors vote for the winner of the national popular vote," The Times said.

Not actually "an end to the Electoral College." And - big surprise - all signatories went for Clinton by at least 10% and all but two (NJ and RI) by at least 15%. Good luck getting red states to join.

67 posted on 12/20/2016 2:48:40 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Olog-hai

Fake news - aka, bare-faced lie.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/198917/americans-support-electoral-college-rises-sharply.aspx

49% to 47% is not even close to an overwhelming margin.


68 posted on 12/20/2016 2:48:59 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Olog-hai

Americans by a wide margin AND in every popular vote referendum have opposed “Gay” rights.


69 posted on 12/20/2016 2:49:08 PM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: rovenstinez

Now now.

That fish ain’t gonna wrap itself. Them bird cages need liners too. And 75% of the homeless agree: The New York Times makes for great cover as they are sleeping one off on some park bench on a cold night.


70 posted on 12/20/2016 2:49:20 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Olog-hai

NYC pinched them off, they can keep them and their welfare sucking habits there. ESAD NYT.


71 posted on 12/20/2016 2:49:28 PM PST by soycd
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To: Olog-hai

New York Times really does look like the fools they are.


72 posted on 12/20/2016 2:50:05 PM PST by conservativepoet
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To: Olog-hai

I wouldn’t expect a Mexican newspaper to understand the constitution.


73 posted on 12/20/2016 2:50:20 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: Olog-hai
Americans would prefer by overwhelming majorities to elect a president using a popular vote system, the newspaper’s editorial board said in a piece published Monday.

How many people in small or swing States, in contrast to those in big States and those in major cities, agree with abolishing the Electoral College? I'm guessing the number is very small.

74 posted on 12/20/2016 2:51:30 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Olog-hai
Liberals today after Trumps win of the electoral vote...


75 posted on 12/20/2016 2:51:42 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon.)
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To: Olog-hai

Hey N.Y. Slimes, how about we test this theory out on a couple challenging national issues first like.....

Gay Marriage

Affirmative Action

Late Term Abortion

Voter I.D.

E-Verify

Whadda bunch a Maroons!


76 posted on 12/20/2016 2:51:47 PM PST by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: Olog-hai

This whole argument is based on a false assumption that the popular vote would have been the same either way. There is simply no way to tell what the result would have been in an election based on national popular vote, since this one was not. If it had been so based, the campaigns would have been conducted quite differently, and the voting behavior in states that weren’t competitive would have been very different as well.


77 posted on 12/20/2016 2:52:42 PM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Junk Silver
A good way to explain the electoral college is to say that in order to be "fair" (one of the left's favorite words), each state gets to decide who they want to be president. A popular vote is taken within the state, and any votes above and beyond those necessary to reach a majority choice in that state are irrelevant to the eventual outcome in that state. The "popular vote" matters, but only within the boundaries of each state and only up to the point where that state counts its votes and determines who that state is supporting for president.

Since liberals love the UN so much, it might be profitable to ask them why each country only gets one vote in the General Assembly, regardless of its population. Pitting two of their contradictory beliefs against one another is always good for creating a mental short circuit.

78 posted on 12/20/2016 2:52:43 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Olog-hai; All
If patriots work with Trump to peacefully “force” the corrupt feds to surrender state powers to serve people that the feds have stolen from the states back to the states, then citizens will lose interest in the feds and probably have to guess who the current president is.
79 posted on 12/20/2016 2:52:48 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Olog-hai

BS. I understand on a gut level the tyranny that the Big Blue counties would impose over the rest of the country if we went with the popular vote. No thanks.


80 posted on 12/20/2016 2:53:01 PM PST by greeneyes
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