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To: GilGil

I’m not certain but I believe Wisconsin voter registration is non-partisan. While illegal voting might be uncovered it will be impossible to link it to a particular vote.


14 posted on 11/28/2016 4:13:28 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76

Her whole argument is based on J. Alex Halderman who said that Trump could not have won. So if they find the machines were hacked and you can not attribute who got the votes I say they will disqualify the vote or Trump in particular. I mean if you have no paper trail but you say there is fraud what can you do but throw the whole thing out.

They are actually using “Polling” data that had Hillary in the lead as their argument that Trump should not have won.

The whole thing stinks.


24 posted on 11/28/2016 4:20:39 PM PST by funfan
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To: Ray76
... and hence the problem. If massive voter fraud is identified, then it will meet the criteria of voter fraud ... period, since it is impossible to know which candidate the fraudulent voters voted for, which will cause a non-traditional solution (i.e, the legislature saying which electors to vote, or sending both sets of electors count (R+D) to Congress and letting them chose which to accept. Either way, the left wins in that they could then say Trump was selected, not elected. This is really the Dem's only hope, and a bit of a Kobayashi Maru for the Republicans. It is actually better for the R's if NO vote fraud is found, and so the Dem's may actually be willing to sacrifice years of setting up the Wisconsin machine for a near term gain.

This said, this is only 1 state, and other strategies would need to be employed in other states, otherwise the price the Dems are paying becomes a long term game changer. (It would take them decades to rebuild their machines in 3 states, which they would lose decisively at every level until rebuilt.) The other part that the Dems need to take into consideration is that the chance that Trump is not named President is remarkably low (must not only take the states out of play, but actually win all 3 contests ... 50/50 each state to go out of play, and 50/50 if a state is out of play that it actually swings D ... means 12.5% chance to take them out of play, but only 1.5625% chance that H could pick up the delegates herself), ergo, this gambit is simply to try to weaken him. This is a remarkably high price to pay for "talking points" and not actual victory, therefore I don't see them taking this to the point that they lose democrat vote "machines" in 3 states. The out of play scenario leads to "Selected not Elected President Trump", and I firmly believe that is the end goal. The question on the table is ... what are the Dems willing to pay for that.


32 posted on 11/28/2016 4:34:14 PM PST by RainMan (The Liberals think our message is dark, I say to them come to the dark side ... we have cookies)
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To: Ray76

Wisconsin does not keep a separate voter registry by party affiliation. In fact, it always used to be, maybe still is, that registration to vote may be made right at the polling place the day of the vote.

But they DO require positive voter identification. Used to be be recognition by the ballot clerk in small venues, or the verbal assertion by two persons known to the ballot clerk, that person was who he or she claimed to be. And for a long time it it was not even required that person be literate, but that an assistant could go into the booth with the applicant, read off the names of the candidates, and mark the ballot according to the selections of the applicant, and it was considered to be “legal”.

But like I say, probably a good many of these provisions have been challenged and presumedly changed since then.


48 posted on 11/28/2016 4:44:35 PM PST by alloysteel (Je suis deplorable.)
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