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To: DannyTN

“if he falls short of 270, it goes to Congress”

There seems to be some disagreement over this point. The more general consensus is that at this point it is merely who holds the MAJORITY of EC votes.

So, even if the EC votes of WI, MI & PA were in dispute, Trump still has 260 VOTES TO HRC’S 232. He still has the majority - he still wins.


13 posted on 11/28/2016 9:33:28 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: jonno
“if he falls short of 270, it goes to Congress”

So what happens if a State House is burnt to the ground and all the vote records are destroyed...?

14 posted on 11/28/2016 9:35:49 AM PST by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth.)
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To: jonno

Stein has today to file for MI and a court-ordered recount must be filed in PA by Wednesday.


15 posted on 11/28/2016 9:36:09 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: jonno
Part of the disagreement on this point goes back to the 2000 election, when the Bush legal team was making a compelling legal case that the required 270 EV total was fixed based on the size of the Electoral College at the time of the election.

In other words (according to this legal rationale), Gore wouldn't have gained anything by disrupting the Florida legal process to the point where they couldn't certify their electors and he would have had the majority of the national electoral votes minus Florida's total. His only possibility of success would have been to win Florida's electoral votes outright.

16 posted on 11/28/2016 9:38:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: jonno

Once Trump’s total in the EC is compromised, they threaten and intimidate what, 15 electors, and she’s in.

I wouldn’t put it past them to kill someone as an example.


20 posted on 11/28/2016 9:45:21 AM PST by OKSooner (Geno's is a tourist trap.)
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To: jonno
The amendment seems pretty clear. Emphasis added:

"The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice."
23 posted on 11/28/2016 9:48:03 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: jonno

Us constitution says majority of electors appointed.


27 posted on 11/28/2016 9:51:05 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: jonno
. The more general consensus is that at this point it is merely who holds the MAJORITY of EC votes.

It's in the 12 Amendment. A majority of the "Appointed" electors. If WI, MI and or PA are not 'appointed' they aren't counted in the total.

31 posted on 11/28/2016 9:53:33 AM PST by AU72
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To: jonno; ExTexasRedhead

From the 12th Amendment:

“A MAJORITY of electoral votes is still required for a person to be elected President or Vice President by the Electoral College.”

So what is UNCLEAR here? It says MAJORITY, not 270, which is merely the 50% plus one for the currently allocated 538 Electoral College Votes! If any or all of these states have not certified their election results and appointed Electors, they are simply out of the running. Dropping these three states from the EC vote still gives Trump a MAJORITY, so he wins. All of this “gas passing here” over some “RAT strategy” to move the election to the Congress is just that, unwarranted flatulence!


54 posted on 11/28/2016 10:49:49 AM PST by vette6387
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