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To: Kaslin
There's still some of the "child of the 1960s" in me, sitting in an audience spellbound by Buffy Sainte Marie, outraged by just how bad the feds can be. The pipeline shouldn't be on native lands which the tribes own by treaty. Isn't there somewhere such as along interstates where pipelines could be built that don't destroy the environment or culturally sensitive areas?

That being said, it is true that solar and especially wind create a lot more problems than they solve.

3 posted on 11/28/2016 5:25:05 AM PST by grania
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To: grania

Those tribes initially gave the OK to build across their land.

Sorry, but they have no complaint.


8 posted on 11/28/2016 5:33:25 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: grania

“such as along interstates”

I lived 1/2 mile from a pipeline blowout and you don’t want to be around when there’s a problem. What could possibly go wrong with placing it next to an interstate?


9 posted on 11/28/2016 5:34:42 AM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: grania

Those were the good old days. Too bad all that peace and love was perverted by leftists into politics.


11 posted on 11/28/2016 5:36:24 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: grania
The pipeline shouldn't be on native lands which the tribes own by treaty.

I don't think this pipeline is actually being built on (or under) any native lands.

13 posted on 11/28/2016 5:39:01 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: grania

If people would do their research they would see that this pipeline does not go through Indian lands.. they just think it’s too close and may someday affect their water.


18 posted on 11/28/2016 5:43:44 AM PST by tinamina
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To: grania

The pipeline in question is not on “native lands”.

It is on the right of way of a natural gas pipeline that is already there.

This is just a green hissy fit against technology in general.


25 posted on 11/28/2016 5:48:28 AM PST by marktwain
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To: grania

I read somewhere that the pipeline company held over 350 meetings with 55 tribes. Standing Rock Sioux were invited to each meeting and never showed up. The other tribes worked with the company to preserve sensitive and sacred ground. The oil company made several route changes to accommodate them. Standing Rock Sioux refused to consider anything.

I also suspect that there are significant legal payments made for land. Given that there are over 300,000 miles of pipeline in the USA and very few accidents, this is by far the safest and most efficient way to transport oil.

It looks like there were about 20 pipeline breaches last year. Most were caused by being hit by dredges or forklifts. As I read it, the Dakota pipeline is completely underground. As it crossed the Missouri river, it’s 92 feet below the riverbed.

Time for these people to give up and go get a job.


27 posted on 11/28/2016 5:59:51 AM PST by cyclotic (Democrats haven't been this mad since we freed their slaves)
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To: grania

The Corp of Engineers website explains all of this. Each stretch that involved reservations involved meetings with many parties. There’s have been many hundreds of meetings as a result. This project was not done without consideration and careful planning.


34 posted on 11/28/2016 6:16:10 AM PST by HollyB
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