"I think I broke my spleen..."
Posted on 11/25/2016 7:04:02 AM PST by Olog-hai
Buddy up to Trump’s America and the UK won’t need to look back.
Easier said than done. Would be an exemplar of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I always felt for Brexit to work it had to trigger similar results in other countries. Otherwise in reality it couldn’t be pulled off. The value of the Brexit vote comes in the inspiration that it gives those in the other countries. Hopefully soon it will bear fruit.
The longer they drag it out the less chance that it will happen.
27 nations will punish the UK for leaving??? Let's examine that claim.
Hungary and Poland will not punish UK but are more likely to have their own form of Brexit. Hungary is thoroughly fed up with EU "immigration" policies. The Hungarian PM has now told illegals i Hungary to GET OUT NOW or else. Poland has a thoroughly Catholic government which will not sit still for having abortion and faggots posing as "married" as is demanded by Brussels. Nor will either contribute troops against the UK for leaving the devil's nest at Brussels. Make that 25.
When France elects Marine Le Pen, Netherlands elects Geert Wilders, Austria elects Hofer, make that 22.
Does anyone really think that Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Finland, Greece, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Romania can hurt the UK or want to? Make that 10.
Denmark Germany (perhaps toppling the witch Merkel in favor of AfD), and Sweden have probably had enough blonde citizens being systematically raped and murdered by Islamofascists to make them realize that EU membership is hell on Earth. Make that 7.
We are left with The Czech Republic, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain. That leaves 2.
The UK won't be punishing itself. That leaves 1 and I cannot easily find which one but a better relationship between the USA and the UK will more than compensate for whichever pipsqueak nation may be left. That would also be quite consistent with Trump's ideas about trade. It might be necessary for the UK to dump the latest "wet" Tory excuse for a PM Theresa May who is dragging her feet in deference to the Brit big business "community" and for Trump to mercilessly whomp the US Chambers of Corrupt Crony Commerce but those are also quite worthy goals. How about Nigel Farage for Brit PM?
Oh, and by then, the utterly anti-American, anti-Christian EU will be dead as a doornail and a good thing too. EU: Go straight to hell and don't come back!
As to The Czech Republic, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia and Spain. I lack sufficient current knowledge to incude them or exclude them fro EU but they lack the heft to save the EU much less to punish the UK. I am generally, as one with Irish Catholic ancestry, no fan of the UK but I have been very encouraged by the Brexit vote. Nowadays, I am no fan of Ireland, run by evil leaders knuckling under enthusiastically to EU’s agenda of “gay” everything, baby-killing and oter abominations. St. Patrick promised the snakes would never return to the Emerald Isle. St. Patrick: Call your office!
"I think I broke my spleen..."
The EU will claim pacta sunt servanda (promises must be kept).
The EU can’t because there are too many cases of the EU’s own violations of the treaty. The UK has multiple legs to stand on if they cite fundamental changes of circumstances; however, Teresa May will not do that.
It could be done quickly if there were a carefully prepared contingency plan in place in which all the necessary microsurgery is anticipated. But there isn't, presumably because nobody who might have prepared such a plan believed before the referendum that it could turn out as it did. In its absence, it's got to be done slowly and carefully, with proper parliamentary oversight, if those negative outcomes are to be avoided.
There is going to be a greate deal of pain of the dull ache variety and the continued slow deterioration if England does not make the break rapidly because the Brexit will be stymied and England will be tied much more tightly to EU. The best calculated solution is not available. The politicians are almost universally determined to stay in EU and will use the delay to make it happen.
That’s like claiming the ties linking Britain to the continent prior to the Reformation were intricate too.
For a united Europe to be reality, the current EU is like the American Articles of Confederacy....... a failed experimental government attempt.
For success, there must be a new United States and the Brussels tyranny must be overthrown
Look at the structure of the Brussels government. This is a Fabian version of the USSR.
That's simply not true. Some will, certainly, but not all and not the majority. Remember that the minister in charge of Brexit is David Davis, a lifelong Europhobe who's been unflagging in his public determination to get out of the EU ever since he became an MP. Likewise Liam Fox, who is responsible for negotiating the new trade agreements. It was because of continuous pressure from them and other like-minded Tories that Cameron called the referendum in the first place.
As for the majority - just because the majority of MPs were 'remainers' before the referendum doesn't mean they will try to block the will of the people now. On the contrary, the will of the people will be respected, but there will be close Parliamentary scrutiny of the detail, as is constitutionally proper. One of the main themes of the Brexit campaign was the repatriation of lost sovereignty from Brussels to the Westminster Parliament. It would be a bit perverse for those who campaigned on that basis to object to the exercise of that sovereignty by Parlilament now.
You are using pro-EU epithets, e.g. “Europhobe”. And someone who is truly against what the EU is would not insist on translating EU dictates into British law as part of so-called “Brexit”, in spite of his rhetoric earlier this year.
And never presume that Parliament really reflects the will of the people. If it did, then the referendum would have happened far sooner, and the Marriage Act of 2013 would never have materialized.
I presume nothing of the sort. I also don't presume that 'the people' have given the May government a mandate to apply Brexit in whatever way it chooses without any reference to Parliament. They haven't.
I’m glad to say I’ve convinced myself this comment is ironic, rather than that you genuinely believe there’s no constitutional distinction between the government of the day and the sovereign Parliament....:)
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