Posted on 11/23/2016 10:52:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind
No wonder. They’re floating it upside down!!!!
Smirk...
As Josef Stalin said “QUANTITY HAS A QUALITY ALL IT’S OWN”.
Hutchison Whampoa controlls the ports; Hutchison Whampoais owned by CK Hutchison Holdings Limited, a Chinese company tied to the PLA.
Of course it broke down....it’s full of Obama parts.
Agreed!!!
Theyou operate two ports but do not operate the canal as you said.
They do not operate the base the Z pulled.
“It broke down in the Panama Canal run by the Chinese (an internet fact or just plain fact had you read the story) and is being repaired in”
Care to now acknowledge that you were incorrect on both of the above points?
Believe that Shermans were gasoline powered and German tanks were diesel powered which accounted for a difference in flammability when hit by an enemy’s shell.
German’Shepherd were gas fueled.
2 x 30mm Bushmaster cannon, no torpedo tubes
(OK 2 x 155mm guns as well, which have no ammunition.)
America's enemies do tremble (with laughter)
IN Grandpappy's day if you had a good ship design, you would improve it by identifying the weakest system improve or replace it, thus staying a little ahead of The Threat. This worked between 95% (modifying existing) and 80% (new system) of the time. At worst you could go back to the old system (which the ship was originally designed for.)
But that only put you a little ahead. It's now 2016, and transformative: all new everything: hull design, machinery, radar, firecontol, weapons. Result, if it works, you've skipped a generation, and every nation stands in awe.
OK course, the chances of everything working right are <20%, and you've no backup systems.
German tanks were powered by gasoline engines. Only the Soviets medium and heavy tanks were diesel powered during WWII.
Pity we never got to see the attempt for transformative improvement on the war horse (that must have been a dismal failure) in the immediate back story of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Still, Camelot’s engineers managed to come up with something ... right?
kell553 wrote:IIRC a typical Sumner/Gearing DD was on the order of 8-10 million USD each while the various DEs built in WW2 were running 3.5-4 million each.
Hi,
This helps highlight one of the issues that has me a bit confused about this topic. In looking at “The Alternate Wars Archive” the hull and machinery contract costs for US Destroyers is listed ( http://www.alternatewars.com/Archives/Ships_Data_USN/Ships_Data.htm ) and in these tables it shows that ships like the USS Farragut (of the 8 ship Farragut class), launched in 1934 had a hull and machinery contract price of about $3,034,500 while USS Fletcher (of the 175 ship Fletcher class) had a hull and machinery costs of $6,330,000, USS Sumner (of the 58 ship Sumner class) $6,250,000, and USS Gearing (of the 98 ship Gearing class) $6,100,000.
As such, does the $6.1M + hull and machinery costs of the Fletcher, Sumner & Gearing classes represent the typical costs of a USN fleet destroyer and the $3.0M hull and machinery costs of the Farragut make them a low cost destroyer, or does the $3.0M cost of the Farragut represent the low end of the Fleet Destroyer costs for the USN, with low cost destroyers then assumed to be those costing $1.5M or less (for hull and machinery)?
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I suspect that we’ve already lost WW III.
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$50,000 (at least what it should cost).
1. Ship size: The Farraguts were 1400 ton ships, while the wartime destroyers were 2200-2600 tons.
2. It was wartime, building ships fast becomes more important than strict cost control. (On the other side of the pond, the late war C class cost almost twice the similarly sized late 30s Tribal class.)
I still think that the Zumwalt class looks like Disneyland submarines from the 1960s.
Someone needs to borrow a few SUBSAFE seals from PEO SUBS.
The lack of a proper CIWS is a major fault. We should have used someothing like the 35mm Millennium system
How many torpedo tubes?
None. But it has 80 cells which can hold the RUM-139 VL-ASROC.
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