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Meanwhile in Turkey, President for Life Erdogan? You are watching Democracy fail Before your eyes
Hotair ^ | 11/17/2016 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 11/17/2016 8:30:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Just as our democratic elections were wrapping up last week we heard rumors that a different sort of transition of power was taking place in Turkey. Aspiring tyrant Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the nation’s president, was spreading the word that he would like to see some changes to the constitution which would effectively remove most limits to his power. At the time I predicted that while the desired changes would be sweeping and transformative, there was actually a good chance he could pull it off.

Sometimes I really get tired of being right. (Business Insider)

President Tayyip Erdogan could govern Turkey until 2029 with expanded executive powers under proposals the ruling AK Party hopes will go to a referendum next spring, officials who have seen the latest draft told Reuters on Wednesday.

Erdogan and his supporters argue Turkey needs the strong leadership of an executive presidency, akin to the system in the United States or France, to avoid the fragile coalition governments that hampered its development in the past.

Opponents see the proposed change as a vehicle for Erdogan’s ambition, and fear it will bring increasing authoritarianism to a country already under fire from Western allies over its deteriorating record on rights and freedoms, especially after widespread purges in the wake of a failed military coup in July.

This is a fairly clever move on Erdogan’s part if you look at it in the cold vacuum of political strategy. Rather than mucking about with asking the Parliament to make the changes (while his party remains slightly short of a super-majority) the request is being put to the people as a popular referendum. That may sound quite “democratic” on the surface, but only if you haven’t been paying attention to recent events in the country. Erdogan has eliminated the jobs of literally hundreds of thousands of civil servants and locked up (or simply disappeared) tens of thousands more who wound up on his enemies list for allegedly having supported the coup earlier this year. That pretty much means anyone who is perceived to have disagreed with him or failed to support the AKP knows they have a target on their backs.

With members of his party monitoring everything that goes on in each neighborhood, how vigorously do you think anyone will be in campaigning against the proposed constitutional changes? Erdogan has sent a clear message as to what happens to people with “the wrong sort of ideas” this year.

The biggest change (if this move goes through) is that he’ll be eligible to remain in office for another sixteen years. Erdogan is 62 years old now, so if you give him until 2029 he’ll be 75. That’s either a ripe old age to retire or, if he doesn’t wish to after two decades of absolute control, who’s going to question him if he wants to stick around the palace for a while longer? There have been some health questions for the president in the past, so this could effectively place him in the role of President for Life in all but name.

I sincerely hope everyone is paying attention to what’s going on with our “ally” Turkey. A nation which had, for a time, begun to look like a real world success story of a transition to open democracy is falling under the shadow of tyranny before our eyes. And the new tyrant is already becoming fast friends with the leadership in Russia, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea. If we leave this situation to fester for much longer we will be abetting in the growth of a new axis of evil.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democracy; erdogan; turkey

1 posted on 11/17/2016 8:30:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
You are watching Democracy fail Before your eyes

On the contrary. What is happening in Turkey, what happened in Venezuela, what happened in Germany in 1933 is precisely the ESSENCE of "democracy", which is why our Founders realized that democracy was an evil from the pits of Hell and did everything they could to prevent its establishment here in our Republic.

2 posted on 11/17/2016 8:34:17 AM PST by Jim Noble (The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handles)
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To: SeekAndFind

Erdogan has much grander plans than President for life of Turkey.

He intends to be the Caliph of the new Caliphate.


3 posted on 11/17/2016 8:34:38 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

And this (Erdogan) “President for Life” is the Islamist that General Flynn wants our country to ally with?


4 posted on 11/17/2016 8:34:44 AM PST by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: SeekAndFind

President for Life = Dictator for Life. Remember what happened to the last guy who had that title bestowed upon him.


5 posted on 11/17/2016 8:34:55 AM PST by LIConFem ( III)
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To: Jim Noble

Exactly. Democracy is as evil as fascism and communism. In a true democracy, the majority can vote away the rights of the minority. Whatever the majority wants is done. Bad system.


6 posted on 11/17/2016 8:36:24 AM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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To: SeekAndFind

When the Apostle Paul wrote that “He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way” it is not clear that this would happen all at once. I think that the restrainer, which was the spirit of Ataturk, has been removed from Turkey.


7 posted on 11/17/2016 8:37:12 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Get Turkey out of NATO..................


8 posted on 11/17/2016 8:38:45 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: SeekAndFind

Islam + Democracy results in Islamofascism.


9 posted on 11/17/2016 8:41:42 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama made a HUGE deal about this guy being legitimate because he was "elected" (So was Saddam).

The people of Turkey are still trying to figure out HOW he got elected. Sounds like Obama II.

10 posted on 11/17/2016 8:48:07 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Tuck the Phurks!!


11 posted on 11/17/2016 9:04:57 AM PST by Eleven Bravo 6 319thID
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To: SeekAndFind

This is exacly why the USA is not a “Democracy” but a “Representative Republic”

Pure democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.


12 posted on 11/17/2016 9:08:42 AM PST by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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To: House Atreides

I don’t give a crap how the Turks want to be governed.

It’s none of our business.


13 posted on 11/17/2016 9:08:51 AM PST by Jim Noble (The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handles)
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To: Jim Noble

I don’t care either...as long as our government doesn’t ally itself (and us) with their Islamist government and as long as they don’t invade Kurdish territories in neighboring countries.


14 posted on 11/17/2016 9:13:55 AM PST by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democracy does not work for Muslims.


15 posted on 11/17/2016 9:14:21 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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