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Total National Voter Turnout Surpasses 2008 (Trump passes Romney 2012)
Dave Leips. Atlas of US Presidential Elections ^ | 11-16-16 | Dave Leip

Posted on 11/16/2016 8:55:48 PM PST by Az Joe

Trump 61,469,976 46.72%

Clinton 62,793,044 47.73%

Johnson 4,304,885 3.27%

Stein 1,322,576 1.01%

Total 131,572,381

(2012 - 129,237,642) (2008 - 131,473,705)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionfraud; national; voter; voterfraud; votes
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Several million votes left to be tabulated.
1 posted on 11/16/2016 8:55:48 PM PST by Az Joe
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To: Az Joe

Subtract 3 million 3 million illegal alien votes!!


2 posted on 11/16/2016 8:59:39 PM PST by WENDLE (Sanctuary mayors OBSTRUCT JUSTICE!! That is a FELONY!!)
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To: WENDLE

At least!


3 posted on 11/16/2016 9:02:10 PM PST by Az Joe (11-8-2016-----We are still here President Reagan!!)
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To: WENDLE

I’m super glad Trump won. However I am super sad Hillary got more than a million more votes total than Trump.

All the dems need to do is shift a few key counties around the country about 50-60k and they will never lose a national election again. That is terrifying.


4 posted on 11/16/2016 9:02:16 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: WENDLE

Don’t know about 3 million but clearly there are many that are not legitimate. Just look at the lawsuit in North Carolina and the only reason we know about those fraudulent ballots id because the race is so close, but how many hundreds of thousands in California are probably not legitimate ballots? It’s just no way to have quality control over those mail in absentee ballots at this point.


5 posted on 11/16/2016 9:04:21 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: FreedomStar3028
shift a few key counties around the country

They are working on it.

Agenda 21, "affordable" housing, and so on.

6 posted on 11/16/2016 9:05:02 PM PST by C210N
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To: FreedomStar3028

The blue states, especially California let illegals to vote in huge members.


7 posted on 11/16/2016 9:05:03 PM PST by Rebel2016
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To: FreedomStar3028

Please understand this. Hilary DID NOT win the legal vote. They let 3 million illegal alien bastards and criminal bastards vote. She lost the legal vote!!


8 posted on 11/16/2016 9:05:15 PM PST by WENDLE (Sanctuary mayors OBSTRUCT JUSTICE!! That is a FELONY!!)
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To: snarkytart

I agree . We are not stupid. This must be shut DOWN!!


9 posted on 11/16/2016 9:06:30 PM PST by WENDLE (Sanctuary mayors OBSTRUCT JUSTICE!! That is a FELONY!!)
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To: Az Joe

Hopefully voter fraud is a high priority (three year deadline objective) for Trump as he assumes office. Trump, if you are listening, it is that important. I'd be a big fan of "once county, one elector". The WhiteHouse would be conservative for decades ...


10 posted on 11/16/2016 9:06:42 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: FreedomStar3028

Michigan and I think Pennsylvania were close but the other ones he won were by a pretty decent margin; Iowa,Ohio,Florida,North Carolina. This popular vote discrepancy is it because of California..period. Trump under performed in California worse than Romney and Bush. If Trump went there for some big rally or visited a couple of conservative counties near the end he probably could have gotten 2% more of the popular vote in California pushing him closer to Hillary, or even getting more popular vote than her. But why do that? Why worry about getting 38% of the vote in California instead of 30% if you’re going to lose either way, it’s too expensive to blow your money on a losing state just to flaunt a win in the popular vote, which is meaningless.


11 posted on 11/16/2016 9:13:37 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: WENDLE

I don’t believe there were anywhere close to 3 million illegal votes. Perhaps a few hundred thousand. I still think that is a stretch.

I’m saying my fear is that a lot of people are underestimating how far indoctrination and propaganda have taken the left, and that the votes are real.


12 posted on 11/16/2016 9:14:21 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

I am thinking 5 million!!


13 posted on 11/16/2016 9:16:07 PM PST by WENDLE (Sanctuary mayors OBSTRUCT JUSTICE!! That is a FELONY!!)
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To: FreedomStar3028
So far, Hillary got a cushion of 3.1 miilion from CA, 1.5 million from NY, 900,000 from MA, and 900,000 from IL for a total of 6.4 million from those 4 states alone. By comparison, Trump only received a 800,000 margin from TX.

Demography is destiny.

It should be noted that Gary Johnson has received 4.3 million votes.

14 posted on 11/16/2016 9:16:18 PM PST by kabar (calm)
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To: WENDLE

Saying “oh, three million votes were illegal” is sidestepping the much darker and way more horrifying possibility that the votes are legal. Which is the assumption that we should be fighting under.


15 posted on 11/16/2016 9:19:58 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

How is that a possibility? The only way that can be assumed to be possible is if there is no voter fraud.


16 posted on 11/16/2016 9:36:45 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

If there is no voter fraud, then it’s a much much worse situation than if there was.


17 posted on 11/16/2016 9:38:25 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Nothing that can’t be fixed by voter ID


18 posted on 11/16/2016 9:41:14 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Az Joe

Right but if it is a little ‘unfair’ that Hillary wins the popular vote but loses the election, we should remember that the media, etc was totally unfair against Trump and he probably would have won the popular vote if he didn’t have everyone so unfairly lined up against him.


19 posted on 11/16/2016 9:47:52 PM PST by No Dems 2016
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To: snarkytart
Michigan and I think Pennsylvania were close

Pennsylvania was like Florida - by more than a point for Trump which, relatively speaking, isn't that close.

20 posted on 11/16/2016 9:49:10 PM PST by No Dems 2016
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