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Rather than panic over Trump, Canadians must prove NAFTA is also in America’s self-interest
The London Free Press ^ | November 11, 2016 | Gerry Macartney, chief executive and general manager of the London Chamber of Commerce

Posted on 11/12/2016 1:22:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 11/12/2016 1:22:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only reason Canadians have to panic over Trump is all the leftist scum that said they would move there if he was elected. They were lying, as they always do, so the Canucks can relax.


2 posted on 11/12/2016 1:25:31 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Much easier to accuse Trump of being a racist than to defend NAFTA as good for America, because it’s not.


3 posted on 11/12/2016 1:25:50 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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“Furthermore, president-elect Trump has clearly stated he wants to create more jobs for Americans, so it’s almost a certainty his advisers will be quick to remind him that more than nine million American workers are employed directly as a result of NAFTA.”

wow, a whole nine million huh?

This author is residing in Canadian fairyland.


4 posted on 11/12/2016 1:27:37 PM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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Canada is not a problem when it comes to NAFTA.... Mexico is...

Because Canada is very close to the USA in sever key economic and social aspects.... Mexico is not, hence imbalance...


5 posted on 11/12/2016 1:28:52 PM PST by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: Steely Tom

That ‘sucking sound’ you heard, was the jobs that went ‘South of the border, down Mexico way’. Very few came North. In fact, a number of Canadian jobs went the same place!


6 posted on 11/12/2016 1:29:51 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://opiniojuris.org/2008/02/27/can-president-obama-withdraw-the-us-from-nafta/


7 posted on 11/12/2016 1:29:52 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just point to the US trade surplus with Canada and Mexico. Oops.


8 posted on 11/12/2016 1:31:30 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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“It’s too early to tell, but overall, we should hold onto an optimistic view about the resilience of the U.S. economy and thus our own.”

Yeah, that’s always the way they think. “America will continue to be a chump so we can do well at their expense., I mean isn’t that’s what America is there for?”


9 posted on 11/12/2016 1:32:22 PM PST by vette6387
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Ending NAFTA is realy bad for Texas though if it matters.
https://www.texastribune.org/2016/08/09/nafta-poses-challenge-texas-republicans/

Also while I dislike illegal immigration, stopping it is bad for TX also no cheap labor especially in construction.

I think this is why W never did anything about either.


10 posted on 11/12/2016 1:41:35 PM PST by Nomad577
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Shut up, Canada. You’ve been hiding behind the skirt of the USA for decades.


11 posted on 11/12/2016 1:44:49 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: GraceG

NAFTA is a complex set of anti-capitalist rent seeking favors. Its name is the only place where is “free trade”.

One of the special interests was the string of Dem Senators from WA-MT-ND-MN-WI-MI Canadian border. They made the US-CAN oil relations extremely inefficient. The intent was to stop all fossil fuel on both sides of the border.

That wacko position should be wiped out. Of course, Canada’s Justin is now the wacko to block it. But Alberta-Saskatchewan probably would like a re-negotiation.


12 posted on 11/12/2016 1:51:02 PM PST by spintreebob
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NAFTA was proceeded by the CUSFTA (Canada-US Free Trade Agreement). That agreement (negotiated and signed by Ronald Regan, BTW) contained a provision (Chapter 9) that was very much in the interests of the USA — whereby the US was guaranteed access to Canada’s energy stocks, at the same price Canadians would pay for it. Those energy provisions were carried forward into NAFTA (Chapter 7).

That was a very, very contentious provision, here in Canada. The leftists here portrayed it as a massive sellout of vital Canadian resources. Indeed, it was the price tag that Reagan put on signing the agreement.

It could have made the USA completely independent of oil from the mid-east, or communist Venezuela. Could have — except that the Democrats (especially Obama) did everything they could to keep the “dirty tar sands oil” from entering the US. The Keystone XL pipeline debacle being the most obvious example of that.

The USA could have had access to all the energy its economy needed — without having to fight wars in the Mid-East to secure it — but you (or your leftists) turned down that deal of the century. It’s probably harder to point to clear benefits of NAFTA now — but, you only have yourselves (or at least your sinister, i.e. leftist, half) to blame for that.


13 posted on 11/12/2016 2:00:07 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Nomad577

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html


14 posted on 11/12/2016 2:09:38 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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Well, problem was Windsor Ontario grew leaps & bounds because of NAFTA. Lots of auto jobs were created in Windsor solely from this trade arrangement, jobs that should of been in Detroit.


15 posted on 11/12/2016 2:11:21 PM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: Nomad577

Also while I dislike illegal immigration, stopping it is bad for TX also no cheap labor especially in construction.


The tribune is a Liberal rag.

Also, Texans DO NOT NEED illegal immigrants. Oilfield and construction jobs pay very well.

Even the 20+ Mexicans that work at the same company I do as Welders and Painters and service Techs for an oilfield service company.....voted for Trump and are against illegal entry. Illegals suppress the excellent wages that citizens receive.


16 posted on 11/12/2016 2:15:57 PM PST by KittenClaws ( Normalcy Bias. Do you have it?)
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Tear it up and then replace it with something American.


17 posted on 11/12/2016 2:16:35 PM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors!)
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The rest of the world hasn’t seemed to accept our decision to crush globalism!


18 posted on 11/12/2016 2:56:49 PM PST by uncitizen (Ding Dong The LSM is Dead!)
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Canada is not a problem when it comes to NAFTA.... Mexico is... Because Canada is very close to the USA in sever key economic and social aspects.... Mexico is not, hence imbalance...

Spot On. IMO, trade treaties with nations of similar wage scales were never a problem. Most of these current trade treaties were only excuses for Corporate America to flee to low wage countries and still be able to sell to the U.S. consumers.

19 posted on 11/12/2016 3:08:31 PM PST by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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I believe Donald said he would renegotiate the Treaty to make it fair to The US. Today it is very favorable to Mexico and very unfavorable for the US. We are suckers and have been poor negotiators in the past - long and short term.


20 posted on 11/12/2016 3:14:54 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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