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1 posted on 11/12/2016 6:22:50 AM PST by Pete
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To: Pete

Trump always states the obvious, and the media always reports it as a complete surrender and admission of deep error on Trump’s part.

I hate the media.


2 posted on 11/12/2016 6:24:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Pete

We need to unify behind Trump the way the left would be unifying behind Hitlery if she were elected.

It’s a bit mindless, but necessary at this juncture.

Otherwise the media, dems and rinos will chip away and kill this movement before anything gets done.


3 posted on 11/12/2016 6:26:52 AM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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The battle against the Clinton crime family is won but the battle against the socialist media, George Soros, and voter fraud still burns bigly.


5 posted on 11/12/2016 6:29:08 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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One of Trumps problems is going to be dealing with the alphabet soup. He needs to bring alt-media into the white house press office and hold the faux media at bay. After a couple of months accept applications for credentials from “real journalists” bring a few in and put them and their networks on probation.


6 posted on 11/12/2016 6:29:22 AM PST by AndyJackson
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you just “know” that at the bottom all of this is the weaselly gope ryan and is cronies trying to keep obamacare in place. why some here are fooled by this is flat out amazing.


7 posted on 11/12/2016 6:31:29 AM PST by dadfly
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The penalties have to go,health savings accounts,buying insurance across state lines,getting rid of the Independent payment advisory board,or better known as the death panel.Regulations on businesses on the number of employees.
Forcing people to pay for maternity care if they are 60 year old males.
Keeping your kid on your insurance until 26,who cares if you want or have to carry your kid and can afford it,go ahead who cares.
Healthcare has never been a problem in this country,ITS ALWAYS BEEN THE COST OF HEALTHCARE,that has been the problem Government involvement in this or anything else has never made anything cost less.


8 posted on 11/12/2016 6:38:59 AM PST by ballplayer (hvexx NKK c bmytit II iyijjhihhiyyiyiyi it iyiiy II i hi jiihi ty yhiiyihiijhijjyjiyjiiijyuiiijihyii)
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They must totally REPEAL it and bury it deep. The word “Obamacare” can’t be anywhere near whatever new program they come up with ... else it will become Obamacare II and, if it is successful, will give Obama the Legacy. Full Repeal is the ONLY way to get rid of the “brand.” (Ryan’s idea of gutting it and fixing it WILL NOT WORK!).


11 posted on 11/12/2016 6:44:42 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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The media is trying to start trouble. We should support DT no matter how he chooses to go about his presidency. We are lucky to be in this situation. And if we get a good Supreme court, a wall, infrastructure jobs, normal immigration, and a fixed health care system I think we are huge winners.

CNN and MSNBC want us to start infighting. Don’t bite. We don’t need this before that. We don’t need perfection. We need the things he repeated at every speech and he can do right away without trading away anything.

We are like a big sumo wrestler against a smaller one. We just need to keep our position and we have to win. Don’t divide into teams, don’t demand perfection, don’t demand certain things before other things. We have a great chance to get most of everything we want. Just stick together.


12 posted on 11/12/2016 6:52:01 AM PST by poinq
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Coverage for pre-existing conditions, and coverage for young people, are relatively minor parts of the overall architecture of Obamacare.

Nonsense.

The only reason there's a mandate to have coverage is the pre-existing condition exclusion.

Anyone who thinks the mandate isn't key to the ACA architecture should not be allowed to write for publication, even for Breitbart

13 posted on 11/12/2016 6:54:44 AM PST by semimojo
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...the Empowering Patients First Act provides for the creation of robust pooling plans that would ensure that any one person’s health status does not increase his or her costs or the costs of others in the same pool

That sounds wonderful. Describe how it works.

14 posted on 11/12/2016 6:57:09 AM PST by semimojo
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There were problem with our old healthcare system, and they needed to be addressed. However, that. Old have happened without the govennment taking over the whole damn system.

In repealing and replacing 0bamacare, those issues still need to be addressed.

16 posted on 11/12/2016 7:06:04 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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Trump said he would repeal Obamacare in its entirety. That does NOT mean removing all coverage provided under Obamacare, but doing it differently. We once again have a case of the media believing their own lies.


19 posted on 11/12/2016 7:21:56 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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Ok, As previously mentioned, and will be aired on the 60 minutes interview, President Trump always agreed that coverage of pre-existing would remain. When you see the interview, you will see that he forcefully states “it will be gone - complete transition - no waiting period”. I take this to mean they have the New plan in-place and will make it either an option to select now and open enrollment for Obamacare will cease by this time next year.

One last item - Everyone refers to Obamacare, etc. as HEALTHCARE - It’s NOT healthcare - IT’s INSURANCE. PERIOD. Having it or not does not change the great level of medical treatment we have in this Great Country.


21 posted on 11/12/2016 7:47:50 AM PST by bobsunshine
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There are only two forms of health insurance that the government needs to provide, solely because no one else is willing to do so.

The first is catastrophic injury and illness. While some insurers may cover a little of this, very few people can handle an unexpected, but legitimate, half million dollar bill when especially a breadwinner is taken down. It might be best to create a public-private insurance company not paid for, but *underwritten* by the government that does this exclusively.

The other is extended care nursing. America has and needs a lot of this, but it is stupidly expensive and not the best quality. However, of all places, Mexico has good quality extended care at a fraction of the cost, with a very good patient to caregiver and worker ratio.

But how to get skilled, English speaking healthcare workers to this side of the border? By setting up medical enclaves on the border. They are not border crossings, but authorized Mexicans can easily enter and leave the south side, and authorized Americans can easily enter and leave the north side.

This means that patients can get either American or Mexican doctors and nurses, much cheaper medical procedures and pharma, and lots of hands on caregiving at a much lower cost. It can get the best of both worlds.

It would be under Mexican legal rules, so little or no Malpractice litigation or expensive insurance. The pharma would be identical brand name, but from Mexico, so much cheaper.

Mexicans also have a good reputation for caring for the elderly as a family responsibility.

Importantly, this wouldn’t handle the bulk of nursing home care in the US, which would remain here. But it would take a lot of the pressure off, and make it easier and cheaper over time.


22 posted on 11/12/2016 7:52:03 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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I’m sure when some here heard he might keep a coiuple parts of ObamaCare, they went off the deep end. His porposals make sense and will help smooth the journey to getting rid of ObamaCare. Nothing wrong with ensuring those with pre-existing condition are able to get insurance because at least they get to contribute instead of getting the totally free ride off the other taxpayers. Same with “kids” staying on their parents’ policies for a little longer - they are a group that generally doesn’t need/use a lot of benefits and once again, if they aren’t on a policy, they end up with getting the treatment and then not being able to pay the bill.


25 posted on 11/12/2016 8:06:49 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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