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The betting market has shifted to Trump. Prescient or too soon?
Hot Air ^ | 3 Nov 2016 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 11/03/2016 9:01:45 AM PDT by mandaladon

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To: mandaladon

predictit.com hasn’t shifted much. I believe it’s because it’s in Europe and there’s a large amount of crooked money being bet solely to prop up Hillary odds and a large amount of “stupid” money being bet on Hillary because European media is even more out of touch with what’s actually going on compared to even the false pictures being presented by the U.S. Shillary enemedia.


21 posted on 11/03/2016 10:54:19 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Not prescient. Had they done this six months or a year ago, that would have been prescient. Well over a year ago I predicted a Trump 65%, Skankles 27% landslide (many FR references as proof).

That was prescient.

22 posted on 11/03/2016 10:59:47 AM PDT by Gargantua ("President Trump... nice ring to it..." ;^)
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I wouldn’t think so - this is about the right interval for a bet that’s more than a SWAG. In a horse race the betting is closed before the horses go. In politics you get to change your bet at the home stretch. Makes it a little more exciting and the house still rakes it in.


23 posted on 11/03/2016 11:07:00 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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” ... in Europe ... there’s a large amount of crooked money being bet solely to prop up Hillary odds and a large amount of “stupid” money being bet on Hillary”

I can believe there is a lot of “stupid” money being bet on Hillary but why would “crooked” money have an incentive to bet on her if she is going to be the losing candidate?


24 posted on 11/03/2016 11:39:32 AM PDT by riverdawg
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“In a horse race the betting is closed before the horses go. In politics you get to change your bet at the home stretch.”

Good point.


25 posted on 11/03/2016 11:40:47 AM PDT by riverdawg
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“I can believe there is a lot of “stupid” money being bet on Hillary but why would “crooked” money have an incentive to bet on her if she is going to be the losing candidate?”

because i don’t think it’s taking that much money to pervert the odds at predictit.com AND it gets idiots like John Stossel to pontificate that the overwhelming betting odds on Hillary means she’s going to win.

a couple of weeks ago an academic analyzed the betting patterns on Trump/Clinton vs. BREXIT, and they found that 70% of the money was bet on Clinton/noBREXIT, while 70% of the number of numbers bettors bet on Trump/yesBREXIT.


26 posted on 11/03/2016 12:20:08 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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“because i don’t think it’s taking that much money to pervert the odds at predictit.com AND it gets idiots like John Stossel to pontificate that the overwhelming betting odds on Hillary means she’s going to win.”

I suppose if enough voters switched their vote based on the publicized betting favorite (because they wanted to side with the perceived likely winner), then there would be scope for strategic betting to “pervert” the odds. I don;t know if the typical voter pays attention to, or even has knowledge of, these election betting markets as opposed to, say, the more publicized polls like RCP, Rasmussen, etc.

“a couple of weeks ago an academic analyzed the betting patterns on Trump/Clinton vs. BREXIT, and they found that 70% of the money was bet on Clinton/noBREXIT, while 70% of the number of numbers bettors bet on Trump/yesBREXIT.”

I read that somewhere, as well.


27 posted on 11/03/2016 1:35:36 PM PDT by riverdawg
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[UK Bookmaker] William Hill spokesman Graham Sharpe, 3 days before the Brexit vote...

"He added that most bets were still on a Leave, and that such an outcome in the June 23 referendum would hurt William Hill's bottom line: "Leave has attracted by far the greater number of bets in total and is the result we fear financially. Despite having taken bets of £100,000 ($146,170); £60,000 and £40,000 for 'Remain' we still stand to pay out much more should Leave win." (William Hill's "Leave Odds" on that day were 13/5

http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-betting-odds-make-huge-shift-towards-a-remain-2016-6

28 posted on 11/03/2016 4:15:35 PM PDT by Scooter100
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Read this article on how the “Remain” big money interests, skewed the betting by injecting huge bets on “Remain”. Meanwhile the great majority of regular/small bets were on “Leave”. The elites shot themselves to influence the vote.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-22/


29 posted on 11/03/2016 4:29:02 PM PDT by Scooter100
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And how did that work out for the elites?


30 posted on 11/03/2016 5:04:37 PM PDT by riverdawg
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Then William Hill was itself taking a position on the outcome by offering 13/5 odds three days from the vote. On the previous Monday, the odds at most bookmakers were roughly 7/4 and most everything I read at the time was that the odds were narrowing somewhat as the vote approached. William Hill was apparently not operating a conventional bookmaking operation but instead was using house money to make its own bets. That’s not a business model I would recommend to prospective entrants in the bookmaking industry.


31 posted on 11/03/2016 5:13:59 PM PDT by riverdawg
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I don’t think you know that.


32 posted on 11/03/2016 9:45:34 PM PDT by Scooter100
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