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Overnight Healthcare: (Gruber) Calls for stiffer ObamaCare penalties
The Hill ^ | 10/26/16 | Sarah Ferris

Posted on 10/29/2016 4:20:31 AM PDT by Libloather

The panic over ObamaCare premiums is putting new focus on the individual mandate and how much people should pay when they don't obey it.

Under current law, the penalty for being uninsured is 2.5 percent of a person's taxable income or $695 -- whichever is greater.

Jonathan Gruber, a key ObamaCare adviser, declared Wednesday that he thinks that penalty needs to be greater. In an interview with CNN, Gruber pointed directly to the penalties when asked what part of the law he would change if he could go back.

"I think probably the most important thing experts would agree is we need a larger mandate penalty," Gruber said. "That's something I think, ideally, we would fix," he added.

The MIT economist is giving voice to a growing number of ObamaCare observers who say a more onerous penalty would help alleviate some of the law's struggles with attracting enough enrollees.

(Excerpt) Read more at origin-nyi.thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: craziestthinginworld; gruber; healthcare; obamacare; penalties
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Nothing attracts more stupid people than higher prices. Is this what they're teaching at MIT?
1 posted on 10/29/2016 4:20:31 AM PDT by Libloather
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Give the non-compliant the death penalty, with no chance of appeal. That will make them buy your defective product (”Affordable” Care).


2 posted on 10/29/2016 4:27:19 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Welcome back to Rome - 471 AD)
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To: Libloather

....wish someone would kick the dog snot out of him


3 posted on 10/29/2016 4:29:18 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Libloather

Government has one answer to problems: more force.


4 posted on 10/29/2016 4:31:42 AM PDT by Old_Grouch (69 and AARP-free. Monthly FR contributor.)
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To: Libloather
Like I've said all along....the goal is to extract a tax right out of your paycheck...just like SS and Medicare.

And as usual...who picks up the tab....working folks only.

If you make $100,000, at 2.5%, the penalty is $2500...and you still don't have insurance....and you're not eligible for a subsidy.

Workers get screwed again.

5 posted on 10/29/2016 4:35:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Libloather

Gruber calls for stiffer fines, because the American people are too stupid to recognize his brilliance.


6 posted on 10/29/2016 4:36:15 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Libloather

As I read on here sometime earlier, The beatings will continue until morale improves


7 posted on 10/29/2016 4:36:33 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: Libloather

With 1000 dollar a month premiums and 8000 dollar deductibles, they’d have to fine 12000 dollars a year to make buying their insurance a cost effective choice.


8 posted on 10/29/2016 4:36:44 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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If Gruber were in the ground, perhaps the penalty would not neet to be increased

Gruber is surplus protopalsm


9 posted on 10/29/2016 4:36:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: Doogle

Anonymous / Wikileaks we have someone we need you to take a look at with a fine tuned microscope. Any emails he’s sent out about how stupid the American people are, Wiener type chat conversations with minors online, unusually large bank account deposits, etc...that type of thing the jerk in this guy is really showing so we know that will greatly affect your succes rate since the higher the jerk factor the higher the succes rate on getting the goods..../s


10 posted on 10/29/2016 4:37:32 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Hardastarboard
Don't give him ideas. Maybe they'll start with something easy like water boarding.

Wasn't he the one who said Obama was only able to enact the ACA due to the stupidity of the American voter?

11 posted on 10/29/2016 4:39:43 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: Libloather

Gruber needs to stay away from lamp posts in the future.


12 posted on 10/29/2016 4:40:13 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Libloather

Bill Clinton slams ObamaCare as ‘craziest thing in the world’

By Daniel Halper and Marisa Schultz

October 4, 2016

Bill Clinton has blasted President Obama’s signature piece of legislation — ObamaCare — as “the craziest thing in the world.”

You’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden, 25 million more people have health care, and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half and it’s the craziest thing in the world,” the former president railed at a rally in Michigan on Monday.

Clinton also said the system is hurting moderately successful small businesses — ones that aren’t doing poorly enough to be subsidized and fall just above the line.

“On the other hand, the current system works fine if you’re eligible for Medicaid, if you’re a lower-income working person, if you’re already on Medicare or if you get enough subsidies on a modest income that you can afford your health care,” Clinton said.

“But the people getting killed in this deal are the small-business people and individuals who make just a little bit too much to get any of these subsidies,” he added. ...”

http://nypost.com/2016/10/04/bill-clinton-slams-obamacare-as-craziest-thing-in-the-world/

13 posted on 10/29/2016 4:41:42 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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Raise the penalties for the immoral criminalization of an inaction.
That’s some twisted libtard logic, right there.

Proving, yet again, that if the libtards only see every issue as a nail, they will only come up with bigger hammers as the solution.

Liberalism is a mental disease.


14 posted on 10/29/2016 4:41:46 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2017; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: bert
> If Gruber were in the ground, perhaps the penalty would not neet to be increased Gruber is surplus protopalsm

When a guy talks this nonsense you know: a) he thinks someone is covering his back, b) someone is subsidizing his life / paying his bills and / or he's a little too comfortable, c) he thinks he someone of importanceand , d) is about to get taken down a notch but is too stupid to know it.

He's already started his descent; he just doesn't know it yet.

15 posted on 10/29/2016 4:43:14 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Libloather

And all the progressive types still think an increased fine would be for everyone else, not for them.


16 posted on 10/29/2016 4:43:33 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Libloather

MIT is in Massachusetts. Nuff said!


17 posted on 10/29/2016 4:43:46 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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Why isn’t Gruber being investigated for fraudulent billing and mail fraud?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/12/20/searching-for-jonathan-grubers-undocumented-research-assistants/


18 posted on 10/29/2016 4:46:16 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Voting Trump. It is not just a vote, it is a chance to burn down the rotten Uniparty.)
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To: jsanders2001

My initial thought

19 posted on 10/29/2016 4:46:57 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Gruber calls for stiffer fines, because the American people are too stupid to recognize his brilliance.

And things like this are just the tip of the iceberg for these hardcore radical leftists. Imagine if they ever completely had their way? Another Obama pal, Bill Ayers, who also was a close friend of Obama's Single Payer "Guru", Quentin Young, wanted to exterminate an estimated 25 million people who didn't fall in line following their intended communist takeover.
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Undercover FBI agent Larry Grathwohl discusses the Weather Underground's post-revolution governing plans for the United States:

Larry Grathwohl:

I brought up the subject of what is going to happen after we take over the government. You know, we become responsible then for administrating 250 million people.

And there was no answer. And no one had given any thought to economics, how are you going to clothe and feed these people. The only thing that I could get was that they expected that the Cubans and the North Vietnamese and the Chinese and the Russians would all want to occupy different portions of the United States.

"I asked, 'well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?' and the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated.

And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers. And when I say 'eliminate,' I mean 'kill.' Twenty-five million people.

I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. And they were dead serious."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ

20 posted on 10/29/2016 4:47:47 AM PDT by ETL (Trump-PENCE 2016!!)
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