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Russia warships: Kuznetsov battle group 'refuels off North Africa'
bbc ^ | 10/27/2016

Posted on 10/27/2016 1:14:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The BBC's Jonathan Marcus reports from Brussels that the battle group is currently at anchor off the North African coast and taking on fuel.

The group has two "oilers" (tankers) with it and it is not clear which of the vessels is actually refuelling, he adds.

The Russian embassy in Madrid formally withdrew a request to Spain for refuelling after being approached by the Spanish foreign ministry.

"Given the information which appeared on the possibility that these ships would participate in supporting military action in the Syrian city of Aleppo, the ministry of foreign affairs requested clarification from the embassy of the Russian Federation in Madrid," the Spanish foreign ministry had said on Wednesday in a statement to the BBC.

It added that permission had been granted in September for three Russian ships to dock in the port of Ceuta between 28 October and 2 November. It said such stops for Russian naval vessels had taken place for years in Spanish ports.

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1 posted on 10/27/2016 1:14:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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2 posted on 10/27/2016 1:18:04 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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They should just channelize the Volga.


3 posted on 10/27/2016 1:18:46 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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Interesting. They wanted to refuel in Spain instead of using their allies in North Africa.


4 posted on 10/27/2016 1:19:50 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: BenLurkin

Even the Soviets had underway refueling, although it was in an odd fore-and-aft formation. Shows you how confident the current Russian Navy is that they have to anchor to fuel.

This is looking more and more like the Baltic Fleet run to Tsushima.


5 posted on 10/27/2016 1:21:43 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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Where are the Japs when you need them?


6 posted on 10/27/2016 1:26:04 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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They want to let everyone know they can that they are there. Problem is..that carrier is a peice of dung.

I worry about the missile fleet.


7 posted on 10/27/2016 1:28:02 PM PDT by crz
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To: Rinnwald

Good think there isn’t a IJN waiting for them.


8 posted on 10/27/2016 1:28:30 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: BenLurkin
Here we see the Kuznetsov refueling off Africa:


9 posted on 10/27/2016 1:33:19 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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good news !

finally someone attacking ISIS

I agree with Trump, we should join with the rooskies and crush ISIS first


10 posted on 10/27/2016 1:33:23 PM PDT by vooch
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To: Alas Babylon!
Here she is, underway:


11 posted on 10/27/2016 1:35:02 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
And another; here the Koznetsov conducting air operations:

Note the effective Soviet era smokescreen. The cloud hides the MIGs very well!

12 posted on 10/27/2016 1:38:20 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Interesting hybrid. A carrier, also armed with 12 Shipwreck (P-700 Granit) missiles.

Huh, and any of those twelve could be nukes.


13 posted on 10/27/2016 1:40:27 PM PDT by agere_contra (ISIS in Mosul are not being defeated. They are being redeployed to attack the people of Syria.)
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Aviation cruiser with a small airwing of light-strike fighters of little utility in a major air campaign. They’d be better off delivering their aircraft to an airfield and leaving the theater of operations. Not having to take off from a carrier deck would allow the aircraft to carry a full payload.


14 posted on 10/27/2016 1:51:08 PM PDT by Tallguy
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Makes you wonder if it’s the missiles they need in theatre, rather than the planes.


15 posted on 10/27/2016 2:02:26 PM PDT by agere_contra (ISIS in Mosul are not being defeated. They are being redeployed to attack the people of Syria.)
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I suspect they will join the Black Sea fleet permanently, to help hold the Crimea.

Much more useful there long term than way up north.


16 posted on 10/27/2016 2:06:39 PM PDT by buwaya
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Yeah, and they’re already past the Dogger Bank fishing fleet to use as targets.


17 posted on 10/27/2016 2:12:14 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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It was a wonder they didn’t kill more fishermen that night.


18 posted on 10/27/2016 2:18:18 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: buwaya

That makes sense.


19 posted on 10/27/2016 2:30:09 PM PDT by agere_contra (ISIS in Mosul are not being defeated. They are being redeployed to attack the people of Syria.)
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To: buwaya

Aha - the reason why the Kuznetsov had those 12 missiles fitted seems to have been so that it would be counted as a “aircraft carrying cruiser” rather than as an aircraft carrier.

Which meant that (during the days of the USSR) it could pass freely into and out of the Black Sea under the terms of the Montreux treaty. Whereas an aircraft carrier couldn’t.

I have no idea if that distinction is still important. But that’s why it’s such a strange design.


20 posted on 10/27/2016 2:42:00 PM PDT by agere_contra (ISIS in Mosul are not being defeated. They are being redeployed to attack the people of Syria.)
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