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Federal agencies to stop accepting Pa. driver's licenses as proof of identity
triblive.com ^ | 13 October 2016 | Michael Walton

Posted on 10/15/2016 5:21:26 AM PDT by chopperman

Federal agencies will begin rejecting Pennsylvania driver's licenses and photo IDs as official forms of identification on Jan. 30 unless the state comes into compliance with a national law that sets standards for state-issued IDs.

(Excerpt) Read more at triblive.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: driverslicense; padriverslicense; paping
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On Jan 30 this affects Pa and 5 other states - details at link
1 posted on 10/15/2016 5:21:26 AM PDT by chopperman
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from the link -

Pennsylvanians won’t be able to use their state IDs to enter military bases, nuclear power plants and other federal facilities, Homeland Security officials said in an Oct. 11 letter to PennDOT. The restriction does not apply to people attempting to obtain federal benefits.

If the federal requirements remain unmet in January 2018, the restrictions will expand to prohibit Pennsylvanians from using their driver’s licenses to board commercial aircraft.

The disagreement between federal and state officials goes back to 2005, when Congress passed the REAL ID Act, which established minimum security standards for state-issued driver’s licenses and identification cards, as recommended by the 9/11 Commission.

In 2012, Pennsylvania lawmakers passed a law that prohibited the governor and PennDOT from participating in the REAL ID program, citing among other concerns an estimated $140 million cost.

PennDOT Secretary Leslie S. Richards in a statement Thursday said her agency has always focused on improving driver’s license security.

Still, the Homeland Security letter states Pennsylvania IDs fail to meet seven REAL ID requirements, including DHS-approved markings, prohibiting remote renewals and requiring in-person reissuance when personally indentifiable information changes.

“In large measure, we are out of compliance for limited technical reasons and because existing state law bars us from fully complying,” Richards said. “While we understand the frustration with the cost of this unfunded mandate, our failure to comply because of the prohibition of current law will be a burden for Pennsylvanians.”

Gov. Tom Wolf’s Press Secretary Jeffrey Sheridan in a statement said “REAL ID requirements amount to an unfunded and unnecessary federal mandate, but if we do not comply, and currently we are prohibited from doing so by act of the Legislature, the people of Pennsylvania will be unfairly burdened.”

“We are hopeful to work with the Legislature regarding this matter,” he said.

State House and Senate leaders could not be reached for comment Thursday evening.

PennDOT has issued just shy of 9 million driver’s licenses, plus 1.4 million non-driver’s license ID cards, spokesman Rich Kirkpatrick said.


2 posted on 10/15/2016 5:24:13 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: chopperman

good luck at the airports.


3 posted on 10/15/2016 5:25:39 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: chopperman

Oklahoma is one of the 5 other states. The six states should plow up the roads and prevent access to military bases and power plants by ground and tell the Feds “When you get real, so will we”. regards - red


4 posted on 10/15/2016 5:25:54 AM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: chopperman

Good news actually. REAL ID requires you to prove you are a citizen or are here legally in order to get a drivers license.


5 posted on 10/15/2016 5:26:33 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: chopperman

I read something somewhere about ....a mark on your hand or in your forehead or the number of his name... Sounds like this may be a slow move in that direction.


6 posted on 10/15/2016 5:30:34 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: chopperman

And yet they’ll still accept a forged PDF as an actual valid BC from an Indonesian muslim as ID!


7 posted on 10/15/2016 5:34:58 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,)
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To: chopperman

You can still vote, with no id.


8 posted on 10/15/2016 5:37:37 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: mosaicwolf

I know several illegals who have Californicate drivers licenses and some have been issued SS cards. Mostly chinese and they do not speak any english.

Virtually all the chinese buffets and spas have illegals working there. They come over on tourist visas and stay.


9 posted on 10/15/2016 5:39:57 AM PDT by oldasrocks (rump)
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To: chopperman

Oh, but at least you don’t even need that to vote.


10 posted on 10/15/2016 5:44:15 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: DugwayDuke

Real IDs are issued to illegal immigrants.

Illegal immigrants have no documents to prove who they are.

Tell me again how this helps.

This is merely a way to force a national ID on citizens.

Homeland Security knows this.

We are the focus of homeland Security, as terrorists from Syria move here almost at will with the complicit help of our president.


11 posted on 10/15/2016 5:56:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (25 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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good luck at the federal courthouse. No juries, no trials, gridlock!


12 posted on 10/15/2016 6:02:26 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: chopperman

airports are grandfathered until 2018

note until 1915, Americans didn’t need passports to travel


13 posted on 10/15/2016 6:15:40 AM PDT by vooch
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Disenfranchised citizens... Feds say they’ll stop accepting them as proof of identity but you don’t need to prove your identity to vote in many places.


14 posted on 10/15/2016 6:34:40 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: lightman; P.O.E.

Ping


15 posted on 10/15/2016 6:41:38 AM PDT by carriage_hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everyone stands around reloading.)
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January 30 - ten days after the new President takes office. Hope he has the executive order ready to go on this. Or can he just pull the plug on DHS in general and take this requirement with it?


16 posted on 10/15/2016 7:01:44 AM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell Is Not Paved With Good Results)
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“good luck at the federal courthouse. No juries, no trials, gridlock!”

Welcome to the United States. The government here doesn’t put itself out. It’s all on you. Here’s how that would work, case by case:

- You are called for jury duty, or you are a witness in a trial: “Failed To Appear”. warrant issued for your arrest.

- You are a defendant or plaintiff or counsel in a trial: “Failed to Appear”, judge rules against you.


17 posted on 10/15/2016 7:02:31 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: chopperman

“The restriction does not apply to people attempting to obtain federal benefits.”

Why should it apply to somebody who wants to get something for free, when it already applies to somebody trying to clear his name in a trial and not go to prison?


18 posted on 10/15/2016 7:06:12 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: chopperman

“...prohibiting remote renewals...”

Years ago when I was stationed overseas both my wife and my driver’s licenses expired. We were able to get them renewed via mail, without a photo, under the requirement that a new license, with photo, be obtained when we returned to the state. I wonder what military overseas do now when their state licenses expire?


19 posted on 10/15/2016 7:11:54 AM PDT by ops33
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To: jiggyboy

If you are not permitted in a courthouse, prosecutors can’t empanel a jury. They can issue all the warrants they want, it won’t matter.


20 posted on 10/15/2016 7:19:37 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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