Posted on 10/06/2016 11:20:40 PM PDT by aquila48
Yes...because Mars has a smaller mass than earth....its gravity is less....so that the escape velocity to leave mars is smaller than that of earth.
So any breathable atmosphere created would leak out into space.
No magnetosphere. No atmosphere.
This is true. So you see, it's not some magical "free market" that makes thing happen, it's human ingenuity. Without it, things don't happen. Free market or no free market.
If you hate Rand so, much try Marx, I think you’ll be happier.
Rand, Marx, Ragnar Redbeard, Anton LaVey... all from the same bucket of philosophical sh*t.
Von Braun's original plan for Saturn V was to put a man on Mars, believe it or not. But it was decided that this was not necessary to beat the Russians. If the USA needed VTVL in the 1960s to beat the Russians, we would have had VTVL in the 1960s.
This debate about Apollo is missing Alternative 3.
The public face of NASA, including Apollo, is a cover story to hide a secret military space program.
Ditto for the “race to Mars”.
Wake up and smell the coffee, people.
Arguing ideology and policy is for ivory tower professors—I expect to see a little “street smarts” here in FR.
Von Braun also figured out that a Mars mission needed to be assembled in orbit, not launched whole from Earth's surface. That is a key element of Musk's plan.
It’s too bad that communist-china-loving bastard NIXON sacked von Braun’s Mars mission, probably the grandest, most impressive technological plan in human history. It would have given the USA dominance in human history until the end of time. It must have hit von Braun pretty hard. He left NASA a couple years after that.
Perhaps they will send muslims to mars
Alien Lives Matter.
I’m no scientist.. but if there is water there, there may be an energy source. That being said, a space city makes much better sense.
Not if we pulverize it.
The analogy I come up with for Elon Musk & the guy at Virgin Galactic is Sir Walter Raleigh. The Roanoke expeditions to America are a useful comparison. That one failed, but others succeeded.
As long as Boeing and the main-stream government contractors are enabled to sabotage independents on the pad, they will get there first...as long as the government money lasts.
You may not be a rocket scientist, but...
This is an example of an exothermic reaction, a reaction that produces energy. It is also an example of what is called a combustion reaction, where a substance (in this case hydrogen gas) is combined with oxygen. You are probably familiar with this reaction through two tragic examples of the unleashed energy of the combustion reaction of hydrogen, the Hindenburg, and the spaceshuttle Challenger.
Hydrogen Fuel?
Unfortunately it produces so much energy that it can get out of control, resulting in an explosion. But let's forget about that explosive part for a minute and think about the possibilities - Hydrogen as a New Clean Fuel - it could be the end of the energy crisis - but where would we get the hydrogen?
One way to convert Water to Hydrogen and Oxygen is through the process of Electrolysis - using electricity as the source of energy to drive the reaction. Let's take a look at what that might look like:...
Isn't this rather circular?
Using Energy to break water to form hydrogen to combine oxygen to form Energy - in this way is rather circular. In fact, because of the laws of thermodynamics, you can't break even in this exchange of energy. However, there exist better ways to disassemble water - namely using CATALYSIS.
What does a catalyst do?
A catalyst is a chemical compound that acts to speed up a reaction, but in the process is not itself changed. Therefore the catalyst, at the end of the reaction, is free to act again to assist another reactant through the reaction.
Catalysts work by lowering the energy barrier between the reactants and the products. In this case:
Does this catalyst really exist?
Scientists often use Nature as a model for the development of new compounds. One such development, which has been studied extensively in this regard, is a molecule known as Rubippy. The structure of Rubippy is shown below. It is similar in structure to the chlorophyll molecule having a metal center (in chlorophyll it's a magnesium ion, in rubippy it's a ruthenium ion) and an attached system of organic rings (in chlorophyll its a porphyrin derivative, in rubippy its a pyridine derivative).
Acting as "relay" channel for the transfer of electrons, Rubippy has shown some potential to do just that - convert water and sunlight into a clean, seemingly inexhaustible, source of energy. However, while rubippy has shown promise in this regard, it is not a commercially viable enterprise because of it's high cost, instability, and low efficiency.
The kind of fuel cell shown here are routinely used in the space program. If this technology ever becomes viably available to the common person, the estimated cost of a fuel-cell hydrogen powered car would be less than half that of your current gas-mobile. In addition, it would be simpler, require less maintenance, and be environmentally friendly!
source:
http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemistryelectrolysis.html
While I hate to see that mindless grouping, they all did have one critical trait that is sadly lacking in folks like you.
IMAGINATION!
Go ahead and remain in your earth-bound Lagrange point. You and your ilk have forever criticized and insulted the explorers and dreamers. They might well not find the Seven Cities, King Solomon's Mines, or "Gold in them thar hills!", but imagine what they might find!
Oh, I forgot...you can't imagine! Pity!
The Ford Model T began production in 1908. There were a few cars before that, but not widespread availablity (about 1886 for the first one). In 1969, we were walking on the moon, air travel was common, air conditioning, outhouses non-existent, automobile travel everywhere.
Look at the progress since 1969 to now. This rate of progress is due to freedom. Freedom means capitalism too. If we somehow keep our freedom (which at this point I would not bet on), then what humans are able to accomplish in the next 200 years will be absolutely amazing and space travel should begin by then. Artificial gravity, shielding, propulsion are a few of the key challenges, but then before 1800 did anyone ever think air or car travel would be possible?
Anton LaVey? Some “imagination” he had...
Lol!
Anton Szandor LaVey[1] (born Howard Stanton Levey; April 11, 1930 – October 29, 1997) was an American author, musician and occultist.[2]
He was the founder of the Church of Satan and the religion of LaVeyan Satanism.
He authored several books including The Satanic Bible, The Satanic Rituals, The Satanic Witch, The Devil’s Notebook, and Satan Speaks!.
In addition, he released three albums, including The Satanic Mass, Satan Takes a Holiday, and Strange Music.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_LaVey
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