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To: Lurkinanloomin; Toespi

Did Rubio get a US passport based upon his birth certificate?

Then he was a natural born citizen - a citizen based upon the nature of his birth.

The “Vattel” definition has never been upheld in the US, and there are only two ways to be a citizen in the US:

1. Born that way (get a passport via birth status)
2. Naturalized (sworn in/apply for citizenship and accepted)

Trying to create a 3rd category isn’t supported Constitutionally or legally. The Constitution only classifies two types: citizen and natural born citizen. Citizen means that your Representative, Senator, or Governor can be a naturalized OR natural born citizen. Natural born means just one way - a citizen by virtue of your birth, not a legal action.

Really, all this Vattel stuff just needs to die - it’s embarrassing and it’s flat-out wrong. Tinfoil land worthy...


65 posted on 10/01/2016 7:12:01 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan (I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat...)
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To: Shanghai Dan

“Did Rubio get a US passport based upon his birth certificate”

I have no idea even if he has a passport, I would assume he does since he is a US Senator and it makes sense he needed a birth certificate to get one and I suppose he uses the same name today which he was born with. I am just fatigued with hearing about the awful Marco Rubio, bubble baths, gay friends, etc. I like him, he is smart, articulate and has MANY conservative values. He is from a poor CUBAN immigrant family and the US CUBAN population has ALWAYS been conservative. I guess he is little, however, so am I. I know we have far greater enemies than Marco Rubio, yet when his name is mentioned one would think he is Charlie Manson.


77 posted on 10/01/2016 8:33:43 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Shanghai Dan

See Minor vs Happersett


88 posted on 10/02/2016 7:15:24 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Shanghai Dan

Any citizen, naturalized or otherwise can get a passport


89 posted on 10/02/2016 7:16:44 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Shanghai Dan

What is embarrassing is how many people are willing to abandon one of the most important safeguards given to us by the founders.

Birtherism” is the greatest Alinsky ever perpetrated.

They have gotten the American people to reject one of the most valuable safeguards bequeathed to us by the founders.
The natural born citizen clause served us well until we ignored it.
Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.

It does not matter if he was born in Hawaii if his father was a foreign national.
Children of foreign nationals inherit the nationality of their foreign national parent(s).
Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.
No other possible citizenship(s).
Only when one cannot be anything else can one be a natural born citizen.

No foreign birth.
No foreign parent(s)
No foreign citizenship(s)
No foreign influence on the Presidency is what John Jay stated in a letter to George Washington as the reason for insisting on a natural born citizen.

Obama told us he was born a British subject.

Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?

Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009, happened with the complete cooperation of both parties.
They want the Constitution changed without the hassle of amending the Constitution.
Confuse people about the clear meaning of a three word phrase and voila, every anchor baby and Winston Churchill is eligible.

The bench was the reason the GOP went along with the fig leaf resolution for McCain that was used by the Democrats as cover for Obama.
Jindal, Rubio, Haley and Cruz were all up and comers and the future of the party and ineligible.

The truth of the Kenyanesian Usurpation will never see the light of day because both parties cooperated in the violation of the Constitution


90 posted on 10/02/2016 7:22:05 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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