[canuck_conservative]

Is there even such a thing as “non-contagious bacterial pneumonia”?

[Dutch Boy]

It’s a real medical condition. I had it twice yesterday and once today. /s

[Kaslin]

I found this in WebMD

The most common way you catch pneumonia is to breathe infected air droplets from someone who has pneumonia.

[Georgia Girl 2]

There is no such thing as “mild” pnuemonia. You either have it or you don’t. If you have it and I have you feel like chit. Short of breath, weak dry cough and no way you feel better in a day or two.

[Jemian]

On Thursday of this week, I was told by a doctor from the Netherlands, that there is.

I am too sick to understand her explanation.

[Kirkwood]

Is there even such a thing as “non-contagious bacterial pneumonia”?

For a normal healthy person, maybe so, but that means you would have to be seriously immune-compromised to be affected by it. You would also not get well again in a matter of hours.

[Carborundum]

Yes.
A retired intensive care doc from Florida has posted several Youtube discussions on this point. Each 20-45 minutes long.

You can get pneumonia from aspirating food particles, saliva, mucus, etc, at the back of the mouth—rather than going down the esophagus to the stomach, it goes down the trachea/windpipe into the lungs. There are non-pathogenic bacteria (”normal oral flora”) in the mouth that will be included, and end up going down the windpipe, by gravity, into the lungs. Once there, they can lead to bacterial pneumonia. Where is this aspiration pneumonia most likely to appear? At the end of the straightest bronchial tubes going down into the lungs—the “right middle lobe”. Where did the CT scan that Bardack got show the pneumonia? The Right Middle Lobe (RML). Best explanation for a non-contagious RML peneumonia, in somewith with swallowing difficulty and severe chronic coughs (from stuff going down the ‘wrong tube’)? Aspiration pneumonia. Usually seen in ICU patients, who are sedated. It should go away easily with simple antibiotics, and not be transmitted to other people because it is caused by the “normal” bugs we have residing in our mouths and noses.

Why would HRC have these aspiration/swallowing problems? The FL doc said he thought it was due to progression of Parkinson Disease, that he thinks she has had for 7-10 years and is getting worse.

If I can find his tapes I will post a link.

[Carborundum]

Hillary’s collapse—Dr. Ted Noel

http://teapartyeconomist.com/2016/09/17/video-hillarys-parkinsons-symptoms/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPq7JiU7Bms