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This is Why the Job Market Stinks, but No One is Talking about it
Wolf Street ^ | 21 September 2016 | James Murray

Posted on 09/23/2016 10:27:52 AM PDT by Lorianne

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To: Lorianne

But look at what you buy, see where it is made, and if it is some third world country, so if they can make it without automation then so can we. Keep the work force off the government payroll.


21 posted on 09/23/2016 11:25:29 AM PDT by ex-snook (The one true God sent Jesus here to show us the way.)
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To: Lorianne

His food example is poor. Most restaurants don’t prepackage salad and baked potatoes. I don’t what that guy is smoking or where he eats but not even Olive Garden does that kind of crap.

A better example would have been printers. Newspapers employed a lot of printers to print those papers. Eventually these printing jobs got consolidated. For example the Boston Glob (tm) is now printed by the same compay that prints the Boston Herald.

A friend of mine used to be a newspaper printer. He now washes dishes for a living.


22 posted on 09/23/2016 11:25:49 AM PDT by Snowybear
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Time to think about homesteading - not for the weak of heart or mind though: http://www.freelandks.com/availableland.html


23 posted on 09/23/2016 12:24:53 PM PDT by x_plus_one (There are two kinds of people in Socialist countries- billionaires and slaves.)
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To: Lorianne

Automation is not always bad per se.

When building roads, we use bulldozers instead of spoons and shovels.

Read up on Milton Friedman.


24 posted on 09/23/2016 12:30:26 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Lorianne
But the offshoring thing is STILL highly problematic for a number of reasons.

What the HELL is wrong with us and so many so-called AMERICA corporations?? Have we forgotten that our new "friends" the Chinese sent us pet food laced with ethylene glycol (POISONOUS ANTI-FREEZE) that killed many of our pets and send us frozen fish fed on human excrement?? Yes, the same Chinese that support the insane missile launching man-child in North Korea, are building a new military island to dominate the sea lanes in their region and that have "bought" crooked political hacks like Harry Reid in order to scarf up thousands of acres in this country, etc. It goes on and on and on as the criminals in Washington continue to sell out our childrens' BIRTHRIGHT!!

It's GOTTA STOP!!!!

If we fail to elect Trump, IT WILL ONLY GET MUCH, MUCH WORSE!

Paranoid nutjob that I am I have this nightmare that we elect a president who actually LOVES America and China gets "frisky" and launches a serious threat to our strategic national interests somewhere in the world. We respond by initiating a rebuild of our obozo weakened military by placing orders for replacement parts for the grounded fighters, bombers and warships. Immediately, the word comes from the Pentagon that nearly all the required parts are no longer produced here. They are now "MADE IN CHINA" and China is refusing to sell to us!

THINK ABOUT IT!

25 posted on 09/23/2016 12:57:38 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE 4TH ESTATE HERE HAS BECOME A 5TH COLUMN. DIDN'T WE IMPRISON TOKYO ROSE???)
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To: Lorianne

I’m a tech addict and I keep trying to tell people that if we don’t do something to put the brakes on the rate of jobs lost permanently to automation there is going to be a big chunk of society.

We are very close to hitting the point where a large portion of the American populace is permanently unemployable no matter what their work ethic or criminal background or education is because there is just so little need for human workers. They’ll either become a permanent underclass or fuel a massive socialist revolution because there is literally no need for them otherwise. There is not room for all of them to go play Little House on the Prairie even if they wanted to and could.

They say “you can’t turn back the clock”...but actually you can.You just don’t want to think about that happening because it won’t be very pleasant.


26 posted on 09/23/2016 3:07:56 PM PDT by Laser_Ray
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I tend to agree.
I don’t know what the answer is, but there are too many people for too few non-manual jobs.

Unless something comes along that is marketable that gives people both income and the ability to buy the new thing (can’t imagine what that is).

We can say we should produce what we buy, but a lot of what we ‘buy’ are services that are done in the background so that people do not even know they are purchasing these services, much less where that work is actually done and by whom.

I guess my point was that people tend to think in terms of actual physical products, and then ask “where are they made” and where do the raw materials come from? But they don’t ask the same about services that they consume because many of them they are not aware they are consuming.

Do people ask their doctor where their medical imaging is analyzed? Do they ask where their electric bill bookkeeping is done? Things like that.


27 posted on 09/23/2016 3:17:41 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Dick Bachert

I guess I’m talking more about services than actual physical things (like pet food and fish).

Where the products and food we buy come from is only part of the picture. It is much larger than that.


28 posted on 09/23/2016 3:20:27 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: ex-snook

I was talking more about services that we ‘buy’ (often without realizing it) rather than actual physical things.
Things like bookkeeping, analysis, research, design, etc.

For example, a piece of clothing you buy may be made overseas and the cloth is manufactured overseas, but the design was also done overseas. The bookkeeping and marketing and advertising design is done overseas. The company who sells it here may purchase their legal and tax services overseas. All that is part of the item you buy, not just the item itself.

If it is not purely hand-on (for example your plumber coming to your house to fix a plumbing problem) then it is likely many of the services you purchase are done and transmitted by computer.


29 posted on 09/23/2016 3:26:15 PM PDT by Lorianne
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Odd no one brought up H1b accountants replacing American workers at MacDonalds. Program was to allow skills that foreign workers have that Americans don’t to be available to our workforce. I mean D@mn! We have Wall Street, with accounting schemes so Machiavellian that even the Feds can’t understand. Donald Trump ought to pull this out and openly challenge Congress and MacDonalds to prove accounting skills used at MacDonalds are not available in the indigenous population.

While he’s at it, he might turn toward hILLbillary and ask why this country would consider electing an executive that is 6% effective. We’re speaking the Clinton Foundation ‘charity’ here, folks, and the 6% solution Clinton offers.


30 posted on 09/24/2016 10:13:01 AM PDT by RideForever
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