Posted on 09/21/2016 6:34:37 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
“Many Muslims” want “a third Islamic attempt to conquer Europe … and they say this is the end of Europe." This statement was not made by anti-jihadism crusader Robert Spencer or Pamela Geller, but by a Catholic cardinal who could be the next pope.
Cardinal Christoph Schönborn (shown wearing cross), archbishop of Vienna, made the comments to mark the 333rd anniversary of the Battle of Vienna, in which European forces successfully repelled a 100,000-soldier-strong Muslim invasion in 1683. Sounding his alarm in a sermon at the Holy Name of Mary church festival at St. Stephen’s Cathedral in Vienna on Sunday, September 11, the prelate lamented that the continent’s loss of faith has made it susceptible to foreign domination. As the Archdiocese of Vienna related (translated from German):
Cardinal Schönborn began his homily with the parable of the prodigal son who squandered his father's legacy. Looking at "our situation in Europe," the cardinal said, "We are a little like him. We have squandered the legacy that gave us our Christian heritage, we've squandered it. And now we wonder what Europe will look like ... [Europe’s Christian heritage], as it is already being felt as missing [by many people]. Not only economically ... but above all in human and religious matters. What will become of Europe?”
So we are imperiled by those who have squandered Europe's Christian heritage. Islamism could indeed be the beneficiary. Said Schönborn, "Will there now be a third Islamic attempt to conquer Europe? Many Muslims think that and want that, and they say this is the end of Europe."
The cardinal’s point is that dispensing with faith is like destroying an immune system. And “Muslims are like the common cold and leftists are like AIDs. It's easy to fight off a cold ... unless you have AIDS,” to quote social commentator Milo Yiannopoulos. In fact, reacting to criticism of his remarks, Schönborn later reiterated that it is faithless Europeans who are most culpable here. While “many Islamists would like to take advantage of our weakness,” he said, “they are not responsible for it. We are.”
Despite this, many secularists are shocked at his comments, with the Express characterizing the idea that Muslims would want to conquer Europe as incredible. Yet they may want to consider that just last year Dr. Mudar Zahran, a Muslim refugee living in the U.K., called the current mass Muslim migration into Europe the “Islamic Conquest of the West.” Moreover, said Zahran, “You read Arab magazines and Arab newspapers; they are talking about, ‘Good job! Now we’re going to conquest [sic] Europe.’ So it’s not even a secret.” Maybe not, but it certainly is news to Western media.
Of course, it’s entirely natural for people who strongly identify with a certain group to “look out for number one” and want to see its group achieve dominance. History bears this out. A motivation harder for secular Westerners to grasp, because of misunderstandings relating to it, is “conversion.” Far from being a purely “religious” phenomenon, conversion is actually a natural aim of most everyone. Think about it: Does Coke not wish to convert Pepsi drinkers into Coke heads? Wouldn’t the Democratic National Committee love to convert as many Republicans as possible? When secularists rail against proselytization, aren’t they trying to convert people to secularism or, at least, to a more “moderate” form of religiosity? In fact, corporations spend billions on the conversion attempts known as commercials, and virtually all debates, over things great or small, are endeavors in conversion. One might say that to be human is to “proselytize.”
Yet many people who readily understand why liberals and conservatives would seek converts and cultural dominance find it unfathomable that Muslims would do likewise. This is because of their projection and their faithlessness. They expect aggressive corporate and political attempts at domination because they can understand a monetary or ideological motivation. But faith is foreign to them. Instilled with the comparative-religion notion that “all faiths are equal,” they project this relativistic fallacy onto others. And with their emotions (which aren’t logical) dictating an unequal application of relativism and that religion truly is a matter of taste and not Truth, they view it not as principle but preference, not as fervor-worthy but flavor of the day. And who seeks to dominate chocolate lovers and convert them to vanilla-ism?
Interestingly, though, and as a testimonial to the inconsistencies of emotion-driven people, a lot of secularists have no trouble believing that many Christians would love to visit theocracy upon them. They also embrace the false notion that “most wars have been caused by religion,” but then can’t imagine how allowing millions of often zealous religionists into the West could cause war.
Returning to Cardinal Schönborn, what’s suspect is not his message but his math. The prelate alludes to two previous Muslim invasions of Europe, likely including the Siege of Vienna by the Ottoman Empire in 1529 with the 1683 Ottoman campaign. Yet that’s just the iceberg’s tip. After conquering two-thirds of the old Christian lands in the Mideast and North Africa, Muslim hordes invaded Iberia (now Spain and Portugal), crossed into Gaul (now France) and got within 125 miles of Paris before being repelled by Charles Martel at the Battle of Poitier in 732. Later, in 902, Muslims would conquer the then-Byzantine island of Sicily. Further inroads into the Byzantine Empire, efforts ultimately threatening Greece itself, helped prompt the First Crusade in 1096 (the Crusades, defensive campaigns designed to ward off Muslim aggression, have been grossly mischaracterized). Moreover, Muslims held Spanish lands for approximately 650 years, until 1492. And the Ottoman Muslims controlled Hungary for more than a century and a half, until 1699.
This helps explain why current Hungarian leader, Viktor Orban, so staunchly opposes Muslim migration into Europe. Also note that the 16th-century invasion of Hungary wasn’t just a matter of lands and plunder: The Ottomans told Hungarian sovereign Louis II that he could be safe — all he had to do was embrace Islam.
Yet today, as comic-strip character Pogo said in 1970 and as Cardinal Schönborn apparently agrees, “We have met the enemy, and he is us.” Far from trying to renew Christian faith, the West is attacking it. In most of the Occident, Christians are not only mocked and ridiculed but are charged with “hate speech” for criticizing Islam, are punished for not servicing faux weddings, and are threatened with career destruction for practicing their faith; Muslims, in contrast, are often given preferential treatment.
Harking back to an earlier point, note that Science Clarified has the following to say about AIDS-like illnesses: “Autoimmune diseases occur when the body's immune system loses the ability to recognize the difference between self and nonself” and attacks “its own tissues.” Having lost its foundational faith, the West has lost its sense of self. It simply doesn’t know where it’s supposed to end and the alien begins. And this, as Cardinal Schönborn has warned us, is where really begins the “end of Europe.”
Can we get this worthless Pope removed? It would be none too soon!
I’ve met him and heard him talk ( fluent English). Very impressive man.
They just may get it this time.
“They just may get it this time.”
They don’t need to take it...it’s being handed to them.
Just the thought of a Pope Christoph sends good vibes up and down my spine.
Can we get this worthless Pope removed? It would be none too soon!
Maybe he and our beloved leader could go in to exile together and keep each other company and while there, wherever this maybe, discuss the advantages and benefits of socialism.
The Cardinal is absolutely correct. What I can’t understand is what the progressive globalists think to gain by allying themselves with the Muslim hordes, who are against everything they hold sacred (gays, women’s right’s, etc). Don’t they realize that if sharia is imposed, many of them will be the first to go?
History of the Moors’ invasion of Europe, Charles Martel, the Battle of Tours, and the Crusades.
The Crusades: When Christendom Pushed Back
http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4698-the-crusades-when-christendom-pushed-back
The fake Pope thinks that it is possibe to coexist with those who are religiously obligated to kill us.
I notice he doesn’t hide his large pectoral CROSS.
((((Unlike some popes I could mention)))
Europe’s problem today is there isn’t a “Charlemagne” to be found in Western Europe where the Muslim jihadist invasion is taking place. This time, if Western Europe is to be saved, they will need assistance from elsewhere, and who will be the “Charlemagne” who saves them?
Will it be the U.S.A? I don’t think so.
If I may put on my “Nostradamus” hat for a moment, might I suggest the modern day Charlemagne will be none other than Vladimir Putin. The irony of this will be that when the long awaited event of Russian tanks passing through the Fulda Gap finally occurs, it will be by German invitation.
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I don’t see how a Putin led invasion of Europe would save them from this mess. Not unless he would be willing to be viewed as some madman, a modern day Hitler, who sought to indiscriminately bomb anyone who “looked Muslim” because the fact of the matter is, the millions streaming into Europe are able to do so because of the open door policy of the Germans and French and Swiss (and to a lesser extent Italy and Spain). So they are mixing in with the native population living where the natives live. Fighting against them militarily (other than bombing obvious terrorist groups like ISIS) is as impossible as separating stink from the air.
It’s not akin to the previous Muslim invasions, in other words, that were military actions of conquest. Surely they are conquering but not by military might that could be countered in kind, but by birth rates and simple (invited) migration.
So to rid Europe of this, militarily, Putin (or whoever else) would have to round up whole swaths of Muslims (or those who appeared so) and deport them forcibly (which would entail forcing the countries they came from to take them back, again doing so by force) or just kill them en masse, akin to the concentration camps of old.
The only non-religious solution is for the European countries to close their borders and stop the mass migration politically. And to entice those there already to at least adapt to Western culture (if not become Christians themselves). But of course that won’t happen anytime soon.
The Cardinal realizes all this I’m sure, realizes there is no military solution, and that it will be quite some time (if ever) until the EU decides to close its borders, so no secular solution is forthcoming either, but rather a social (religious) one, which is why he said what he did I’m sure: to inspire and motivate the remaining Christians there to practice their faith and convert the immigrants already there. Because he knows they are there to stay and the only way to get rid of the threat they pose (culturally speaking) is to convert them.
It’s not like centuries ago all over again. One (individual or country) can’t justify military action against these “hordes”. They didn’t come there by might. They (most of them anyway) came seeking refuge. So to militarily wipe them out would further paint them as victims (right or wrong) and set back any hope of repelling the invasion even further, as any resistance in that respect would be described as genocide (right or wrong that’s how it would be).
The only solution is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ incarnate through His Church. That’s what the Cardinal is saying.
When, and if, a people become too civilized to do what’s necessary to survive in an uncivilized world, they simply won’t survive, they don’t deserve to survive, and good riddance.
Survival of the fittest is still being contested here on the third planet, and when you, your family, and your people’s survival is threatened, the proper response in an uncivilized world is to eliminate that threat even if it requires killing every man, woman, and child of the enemy. If you are too “Civilized" to do that, prepare to join the Dodo birds.
I would love to see him become pope, but I am not understanding how people can claim he may be the next pope. Is there some sort of campaign structure that this lifelong Catholic is not aware of?
If we’ve degenerated so far as to not trust that Christ is the solution, and not more heavy-handed, draconian violence, then we’re lost already.
Call Jesus and tell Him the Second Coming isn’t necessary. There’s no one left who wants to be saved.
Turn the other cheek to a Muslim and see what happens.
Any man who won't defend his family and his country from an invading horde of Muslim barbarians isn't worthy of survival and is already lost.
I’m not saying lie down and do nothing, as you’re clearly implying I said.
There’s a difference between actively seeking to convert another to Christianity and doing nothing! Huge difference!
Your plan to stop an invading horde of Muslim barbarians is to convert them to Christianity before they can kill you?
Excuse me, but I think you need a better plan than that.
In the first place, you seem to think Islam, like Christianity, is a religion, but it’s not. If the civilized world is to survive, Islam must be understood for what it really is: It’s not a religion, form of government, or anything recognizable to the civilized mind. Islam is a disease, an incurable disease of the mind that is highly contagious among the feeble minded and is now spreading among the world’s feeble minded at an epidemic rate. As with any disease, one can’t reason with this disease, negotiate with it, or treat in a manner other than how one would treat any other incurable disease.
As past efforts to contain this disease have failed, carriers of this Plague of Islam must be eradicated wherever they’re found, for if they’re not, this disease will eventually end not just Western Civilization, but it will undo over 5,000 years of human civilization.
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