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To: forgotten man
The Marine Corps bulldog mascot will be the next one to go. Muslims don’t like dogs.

Sounds like the problem went a lot deeper than a single Muslim recruit.

"The findings of the investigations include allegations of: – Recurrent physical and verbal abuse of recruits by drill instructors, with a noted insufficiency of oversight and supervision at various command levels; – Improper assignment of a drill instructor for duty while under investigation for previous allegations of assault and hazing; – Maltreatment of new drill instructors by more experienced drill instructors; – Gaps in awareness by commanders regarding their roles within the command investigation process; and, – Anomalies and inconsistencies in the policies and procedures responding to suicidal ideations or statements."

8 posted on 09/09/2016 9:28:42 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

In other words, the Muzzie was a pussy.


10 posted on 09/09/2016 9:34:33 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: DoodleDawg

It depends on who carried out the investigations, and the directive they were given.


16 posted on 09/09/2016 9:41:33 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: DoodleDawg

Today, abuse is looking at someone cross eyed or saying something they don’t like, or getting up in their face. Look at the “need” for safe spaces at colleges and schools now. We are/have produced a generation of pussies (yes pussies) so we must tone down tried and true training techniques because they may offend someone. The net result of that is a less effective force, but a more sensitive force. I want an effective force protecting the country, not a sensitive one. And don’t believe for a minute that these were indepentent “investigations without significant PC command influence.


30 posted on 09/09/2016 10:33:56 AM PDT by falcon99
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To: DoodleDawg

That sounds like boot camp.....fancy words to say they weren’t coddled


38 posted on 09/09/2016 11:04:14 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: DoodleDawg

You wanna be a marine? You gotta be tough. The marines don’t give lessons in dinnerware arrangement. They teach you to survive in hell.


40 posted on 09/09/2016 11:05:57 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: DoodleDawg

When my daughter graduated from MCRD Parris Island, we went to the ceremonies. After the pinning ceremonies, recruits are released to spend the rest of the day with their families. However my daughter had some physical issues from the time she went in to the time she graduated and had to wait for the next class to catch up to her and then be assigned to that class to complete her training. There were several young women in her class that had experienced the same thing.

But the assigned D.I’s treated them like second class citizens in that after the pinning the DI handed out their new ID cards to the “original class members”. The late joiners had to go to on their own during their family time and wait for processing. It cost us 3 hours of sitting around the base until she could be released. Only left us time for dinner and then to take her back to base.

Her uncle who was with us and is a retired Gunnery Sgt. took exception to that “treatment” and contacted his buddy who by then was the Sgt. Major of the Marine Corp, John Estrada, who he had served with from boot camp, and other postings, to express his disappointment with that. I don’t know if anything ever came of it.


57 posted on 09/09/2016 12:48:08 PM PDT by shotgun
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It’s bad when anyone commits suicide, but it will happen no matter what. This kid had no business anywhere near the military, but since he was a protected class, good men will be punished.

Scape-goating has become our military leadership’s favorite pass time. Basic is supposed to prepare recruits for battle. If someone can’t stand being yelled at, sleep deprived, hungry, berated, belittled, scared, sore, lonely, embarrassed, and pushed beyond what they imagine is their physical limits; they do not belong in the military.

You want to talk hazing? My son is a corpsman who went green side and his initiation was brutal. He could tell you some stories, but you couldn’t torture him enough to say a bad word about his crew. I guarantee that any one of them would lay down their lives for one another.

Unless there is documented physical abuse with serious bruising and scars, this is all bovine excrement that will again reduce capability. 10 days? Puking fussies don’t belong in combat units!


66 posted on 09/09/2016 3:20:38 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (If those who defend our freedom do not know liberty, none of us will have either.)
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