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Theresa May will trigger Brexit negotiations without Commons vote
The Telegraph ^ | 08-27-2016 | Steven Swinford

Posted on 08/27/2016 12:06:08 PM PDT by Trump20162020

Theresa May will not hold a parliamentary vote on Brexit before opening negotiations to formally trigger Britain's withdrawal from the European Union, The Telegraph has learned.

Opponents of Brexit claim that because the EU referendum result is advisory it must be approved by a vote in the Commons before Article 50 - the formal mechanism to leave the EU - is triggered.

However, in a move which will cheer Eurosceptics, The Telegraph has learned that Mrs May will invoke Article 50 without a vote in Parliament.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: brexit; eu; europeanunion; theresamay

1 posted on 08/27/2016 12:06:08 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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2 posted on 08/27/2016 12:11:46 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: Voluntaryist

Not sure what you are insinuating.

May is agreeing with the popular vote for Breixt. Are you against Brexit?


3 posted on 08/27/2016 12:22:14 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart
Are you against Brexit?

No way!!
4 posted on 08/27/2016 12:24:33 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: Cold Heart
I thought the green was a Pepe shout-out. 🐸
5 posted on 08/27/2016 12:27:44 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Donald Trump will ban auto-correct with an Executive Order. Go Trump!)
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To: sockmonkey
I thought the green was a Pepe shout-out. 🐸

It's either that, or Dat Boi...


6 posted on 08/27/2016 12:36:32 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Voluntaryist

Why is she colored green in this image? I don’t get the symbolism.


7 posted on 08/27/2016 12:42:14 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: naturalman1975

Ping—I’d be very interested in your comments on this.


8 posted on 08/27/2016 1:16:07 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Trump20162020

The BREXIT opponents want another bite at the apple. The PM says the discussion is done. the vote has been taken and the people are supreme over their representatives in Parliament. I seem to recall a US President who said to his opponents, votes count!


9 posted on 08/27/2016 1:48:54 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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How can the British government try to weasel out of its own propaganda?

10 posted on 08/27/2016 1:58:09 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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Three Cheers for May! She’ll make a great ally on the road back to common sense.

“This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,—
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
This nurse, this teeming womb of royal kings,
Fear’d by their breed, and famous by their birth. “

William Shakespeare-King Richard II, John of Gaunt


11 posted on 08/27/2016 2:06:44 PM PDT by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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To: Trump20162020

She says she won’t trigger Article 50 until she has a UK approach and objectives. How long will that take?


12 posted on 08/27/2016 3:03:12 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Trump20162020
Not knowing that much about Parliamentary government my opinion might not hold much weight.However,it seems to me that,given that the turnout for the Brexit referendum was something like 70% and the vote wasn't particularly close May has all the authority she needs to proceed.
13 posted on 08/27/2016 3:22:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (In Today's America Feelings Are The New Truth)
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Right, Remain lost by well over 1.2 million votes.

If Scotland were to exit, it’d really be anti-EU. Scotland, which is very liberal, was the only reason the Brexit vote was even somewhat close.


14 posted on 08/27/2016 3:33:20 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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How can the British government try to weasel out of its own propaganda?

Parliamentary Government, Theresa May was elected Prime Minister by her Tory (Conservative) Party peers because they have the Parliamentary majority. Her predecessor, David Cameron, although also Tory, led the fight against BREXIT. Upon losing the referendum, he resigned and thus PM May. FYI: while May was also anti-Brexit, she was not loud about it and when the leading pro-Brexit Pols, like Boris Johnson, stepped aside, she was the leading compromise candidate.

However, as this shows, no UK party, other than UK Independence Party (UKIP), was 100% in either direction. So, the anti-Brexit Members of Parliament, Tory, Labour, Scottish Nationalist and Liberal Democrats, all want to delay, deny, confuse and trash the Referendum. Since London, as a EU Financial hub and leftist bastion, was strongly anti-Brexit, getting sign-waving crowds full of hysterical youth, is not a problem. If the PM just proceeds like her predecessor, Margaret Thatcher, there will be a lot of fuming and hysteria, but no power to thwart her.

15 posted on 08/27/2016 3:59:56 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Hieronymus

This is uncharted territory constitutionally speaking as far as British law is concerned. I think May is probably correct in her assessment that she doesn’t need a Commons vote, but is something that the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom may need to rule on - that body only came into existence in 2009 (it replaced a system by which the House of Lords could serve as Britain’s highest court - senior Judges were automatically members of the House of Lords (the ‘Law Lords’ and could sit as a court if necessary).

I can see somebody taking a case challenging May’s view to the Supreme Court - and I think they’d rule in favour of her position. But even if they didn’t, it would simply cause a Commons vote - she has nothing to lose by taking this approach.

This is also a situation in which the Queen might advise May if she felt a Commons vote was necessary - my guess is if May is talking about this, she’s already discussed it with the Queen and has her approval to proceed - or at least that the Queen made no objection.


16 posted on 08/27/2016 4:07:00 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: DoodleDawg

Extracating the UK from the EU will take a while. There are a lot of details to work over and a lot of wounded egos on the EU side.

My guess is that HM Government will want to get the deal done before triggering Article 50, because once it is triggered the UK is out after two years.

Also taking her time will allow her to get Remain supporters in London, Northern Ireland, and Scotland on board.

Also, properly handled, she can undercut Nicola Sturgeon and the Nationalist led Scottish Government who were hoping to use Scottish support for the EU to trigger another Independence Referendum.


17 posted on 08/27/2016 4:15:43 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks, I wasn’t even aware of the existence of the Supreme Court of the U.K. I hope that it works better than the Supreme Court of Canada.


18 posted on 08/27/2016 6:16:41 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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