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New Chinese aircraft carrier to hit water by end of year
Nikkei Asian Review ^ | August 24, 2016

Posted on 08/24/2016 5:46:10 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 08/24/2016 5:46:10 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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I bet it would make a cool scuba diving reef.


2 posted on 08/24/2016 5:51:12 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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All the smart people here on FR say that they will need 20 years to master the steam catapult.

Until then I predict many injuries for the expendable flight deck peeps.


3 posted on 08/24/2016 5:52:54 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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Never underestimate the enemy. The Dems have once again hollowed out the US military and their weakness is encouraging the Chinese, Russians, North Koreans, Iranians, et.


4 posted on 08/24/2016 5:55:51 AM PDT by littleharbour
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These “ski jump” flight decks require short take off - vertical landing aircraft to operate effectively. The Brits are (or were) masters of the type with the Harrier. The Russians tried but never really got the hang of it... Does China also have a functional STOVL aircraft to go along with this class of ship? Anybody know?


5 posted on 08/24/2016 6:04:40 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long .as it's mandatory.)
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Not STOVL but STOBAR: Russia and China use variants of the SU-33.


6 posted on 08/24/2016 6:07:27 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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Does the Shenyang J-15 actually work on this deck? It is an arrested landing aircraft.


7 posted on 08/24/2016 6:08:19 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long .as it's mandatory.)
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They will be dragging it back to port.

Shoot, even Brazil has a carrier. They shop for A4’s all over the world for it.


8 posted on 08/24/2016 6:09:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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All the smart people here on FR say that they will need 20 years to master the steam catapult.

Why would it take them 20 years to master technology that has been around for 60 years or more?

9 posted on 08/24/2016 6:11:54 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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Does the Shenyang J-15 actually work on this deck? It is an arrested landing aircraft.

And the ship has arrested landing gear. The technical abbreviation for the design is STOBAR - Short Takeoff But Arrested Recovery. U.S. carriers are CATOBAR - Catapault Takeoff But Arrested Recovery.

10 posted on 08/24/2016 6:15:53 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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It would take them that long to get all the bugs out.

It is a complicated system. There is a lot of stuff that can go wrong.

And of course, training.


11 posted on 08/24/2016 6:21:07 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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If Clinton gets in, she’ll sell them the technology.


12 posted on 08/24/2016 6:24:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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They can leapfrog a couple of years with espionage and some help from catapult operators.

http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=35116#.V72hXvl97X4


13 posted on 08/24/2016 6:28:58 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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It would take them that long to get all the bugs out.

Not really. Catapults as a whole have been used since the early days of carrier aviation. Steam catapults have been the norm since the 1950's. It's not particularly complex or difficult technology.

And of course, training.

It takes the U.S. Navy about two years to train a pilot, and cat shots are only a part of it. It won't take the Chinese much time to bring their naval aviators up to speed.

14 posted on 08/24/2016 6:31:27 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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I wonder at the quality of their metallurgy, engineering design, and construction? Up to now, the PRC hasn’t been known for high quality technical steel and high attention to detail specifications. Also, the PLA hasn’t been engaged since their border flare up with Vietnam - I think over 30 years ago. A lot of knowledge in every organization is not written down; it’s passed on by personal contact through demonstration and story telling.


15 posted on 08/24/2016 6:34:15 AM PDT by captain_dave
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If Clinton gets in, she’ll sell them the technology.


That’s right. and in a year or so, she’s be the wealthiest woman on earth.

Donald Trump will bring back RR’s “Peace through strength”.


16 posted on 08/24/2016 6:42:29 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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Chinese Communist Party’s Copied aircraft carrier to hit water by end of year


17 posted on 08/24/2016 7:23:48 AM PDT by butlerweave
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England doesn’t even attempt to operate catapults.


18 posted on 08/24/2016 7:33:52 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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England doesn’t even attempt to operate catapults.

They have in the past.

19 posted on 08/24/2016 7:59:37 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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It won't take the Chinese much time to bring their naval aviators up to speed.

The reason it takes US pilots two years for training (if I assume your numbers are correct), is that we've been doing it a lot longer than they have. We also have other crews on carriers, both officer and enlisted, in support of carrier operations. All of them need to be trained as well.

It also takes dedicated logistical resources to support a carrier underway, not to mention fuel, as this is a conventionally-powered ship.

I'm not saying the Chinese won't figure it out, but carrier operations are more than just an ability by their pilots to take off and land in ideal conditions.

20 posted on 08/24/2016 10:37:39 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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