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To: Bryanw92
I believe that your problem is that you are sticking with the two-class polity--clergy/laity, which the Methodist retains in episcopacy tracing back through Anglicanism and Catholicism to the Jewish age of priests. The "Plymouth Brethren" say "No" to this, and John N. Darby proclaims it in his writings as (in the New Covenant paradigm) being from the antichrist.

Your dilemma is one I have also faced. On the one hand, I reject one of the "T"s (Two officers) in the acronym "B-A-P-T-I-S-T" that says the polity of the local church comprises an assembly with only two offices: (1) the Pastor, who is the elder, the bishop, and the teacher, the ultimate authority, all rolled into one; and (2) the deacon(s) who, like those in the prototype Jerusalem church, are assigned responsibility for the welfare of the constituents, their supported missionaries, and the physical property.

What this does is to torpedo any effort of true discipling; that is, to raising the spiritual maturity of new babes in Christ through the infancy, trainable childhood, and responsible young adult stages such that as many elders can be indoctrinated as possible, that would be equivalently taken as authoritative in the Scriptures as, or even beyond, the Pastor (whose task is really only to raise up such elders), which is the Great Commission put into practice.

Unhappily, that simply is not taking place in most pastored Baptist (with a capital "B"), all of whom are supposed to exhibit no differentiation in equality before the Lord, not a two-class episcopacy. In practice, most "Pastors" fear that the richly spiritually mature believer might attempt to undercut the pastor's supposedly unshared authority.

Yet, such an independent Baptist assembly does preach the unvarnished non-Calvin-TULIP gospel of salvation by faith alone in Jesus Lord and Christ alone, with Scripture alone investing genuine authority in the preacher who declares its inerrant Biblical Truths. For them, Eternal life is a gift from which there is no going back through the power of Christ's Blood to cleanse one of all unrighteousness forever, and exercise of church discipline the corrector of blatant disregard of Scriptural behavior. <[> Baptist's doctrine stays quite distant from the modern Methodist's Quadrilateral (not A Wesleyan approach, any more than the "losing your salvation" feature of Arminianism --which does not come from Jacob Arminius), and rests on eternal life through believing in the Christ of the Bible and possession of the indwelling Holy Spirit to guide.

A fundamental Baptist will also stand strongly on the King James Authorized Version of the Bible where English is the common language, and its Masoretic Hebrew and Textus Receptus Greek texts as its only and supreme authority for doctrine and practice of The Faith. Baptists in general are very strongly oriented toward foreign missionary projects and local door-to-door evangelism.

The "Plymouth Brethren" are also strong on Sola Scriptura, sole fide, eternal security, and foreign evangelism, but not so much on excluding Bible versions in English or in other languages that are not translated from the historical Masoretic and Received Text foundations.

It is for this last failure to "touch not the unclean thing" of questionable modern translations that irks and perplexes me.

However, on a theoretically basis their typical doctrine supports and affirms the growth of the new-born spiritual babe into the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, not derailed by the attempts of the Wicked One to blunt one's testimony.

However, practically they have preferred secondary methods of evangelism, rather than the Scriptural plan that Jesus illustrated by commanding the personally supervised teaching and application of the Christian life.

It is this area in which both Baptists and Darbyites, and other assemblies like them, need to be reintroduced to Biblical methods of effective implementation of the new, born-again, life.

If you cannot give up the clergy/laity model, as well as the overarching denominational external and powerful control of the local Christian assembly, you are going to be out of luck, no matter how comfortable it seems for the moment, IMHO.

In this world, you're going to have to make some compromises in the organizational implementation of Christ's commands. I trust that the Lord will lead you through your peregrinations. It's taken me a long time to learn this, and I believe I'm giving you some wise advice. But again, you must decide your own path.

I've resolved the disparity by--for the time--choosing the commitment to effective personal Biblical discipleship above the KJV-only preference.

Be brave. Find or be a discipler. Make more disciples.

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12 posted on 08/21/2016 4:58:47 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Thanks. If I ever get past my lack of trust for churches, I’ll give what you said some consideration in choosing a new church.


13 posted on 08/21/2016 5:17:39 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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