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Marine who was court-martialed after putting up Bible verse at her desk loses 1st Amendment appeal
Daily Mail ^ | 8/11/16 | James Wilkinson

Posted on 08/11/2016 5:50:45 PM PDT by Libloather

Marine who was court-martialed after putting up Bible verse at her desk loses First Amendment appeal in 'outrageous' federal court decision

A Marine who was court-martialed after refusing to take biblical verses down from her desk has lost her federal appeal, in a decision her representative called 'outrageous'.

Marine Lance Corporal Monifa Sterling lost a 2014 court-martial at her base in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, based in part on her refusal to remove the verses.

She challenged that action but was told Wednesday that she had lost the case after it was ruled that the order was not a 'substantial burden' on her First Amendment rights, Fox News reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appeal; bible; camplejeune; courtmartial; courtmartialed; lawsuit; marine; military; monifasterling; northcarolina; ruling; sterling; thugculture; ucmj; verse; workplace
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To: Libloather

One day the judge will be judged by the Supreme Judge


2 posted on 08/11/2016 5:54:34 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Libloather

Damn!!!!!! We can’t get Trump in office soon enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 08/11/2016 5:54:48 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Libloather

If I recall this case, this Marine was needlessly confrontational and insubordinate in the way she chose to display her bible verses. I’m all for thinking about the Bible during the day if you chose to, but if your supervisor says they don’t want such materials prominently displayed and you keep doing it in direct defiance of a direct order, well, you deserve what you get.

Never forget, when in the military, you are a Government Issue, you are the employee of the government, plain and simple. You lose certain civilian rights while in active service. That’s the way it is.


4 posted on 08/11/2016 5:55:57 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

I imagine so

No one told her to not practice her religion in private. And we are not a theocracy


5 posted on 08/11/2016 5:59:22 PM PDT by stanne
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To: lee martell

“...If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven’s scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines...”

Are they gonna force the Marines to take this out of the Marine Corp Hymn???????


6 posted on 08/11/2016 6:00:11 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: lee martell
You lose certain civilian rights while in active service.

Rights like?
A fair trial? Self-defense? Due-process?

My point is this: is a right that can be so lost really a right?
Now, granted, there are many things called rights which are not; but care must be taken when "lose certain rights" is at hand.

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.
— Patrick Henry

7 posted on 08/11/2016 6:02:39 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: lee martell

Including not reporting for duty


8 posted on 08/11/2016 6:04:02 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Edward.Fish

Failure to obey an order can put you in the brig


9 posted on 08/11/2016 6:05:22 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: stanne

No but we were founded as a christian nation. we had preachers who preached about just and unjust wars, took off their robes after, and had their officers’ uniforms underneath, asking for volunteers to fight King George.


10 posted on 08/11/2016 6:06:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TexasGator

“lawful” order....


11 posted on 08/11/2016 6:06:26 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Edward.Fish

preachers were commanding officers in rwi.


12 posted on 08/11/2016 6:07:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: lee martell

Does that include when a person is in housing on base?


13 posted on 08/11/2016 6:08:29 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Libloather

That’s it?

Biblical or not; it’s all MARINE!


14 posted on 08/11/2016 6:09:09 PM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: Libloather

WHY IN THE FRICK DO I HAVE TO ALWAYS GET MY NEWS FROM THE U.K.???.

In the meantime “not important enough to be protected”

Lordy and we thought the Germans who lived thru their socialist movements had it bad. Hang on folks. You ain’t see nothin yet.


15 posted on 08/11/2016 6:11:53 PM PDT by lizma2 (')
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To: jsanders2001

IMHO it can’t come soon enough.

Sick of these heathens dictating their doctrines of demons to everybody!


16 posted on 08/11/2016 6:13:35 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (*Convicted of thought crimes by the Left and the Right*)
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To: Libloather; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active Duty ping.


17 posted on 08/11/2016 6:15:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: lee martell
That's my recollection too. She was defying a authority then a lawful order and the subject matter happened to be the bible verse.

In my career, we had different commanders with different tolerance of personal displays. One (a great commander) would tolerate even encourage family and girlfriend pictures. One troop, of course, had to go to the extreme with nudies of his sweetie. We all liked it, but the commander said "no more". So, there were no more. That's the way it is in the military.

18 posted on 08/11/2016 6:16:55 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: dhs12345

The military is subject to order and discipline. When you are told to do something, you do it. If anyone decides they are going to argue they will lose. Doesn’t matter where you are.

Bottom line is this marine was told to do something and didn’t comply. She decided to be insubordinate. Insubortination is a court martial offense.


19 posted on 08/11/2016 6:17:04 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: lee martell

I’m betting a practicing muslim will get the same treatment for posting a verse of two from his little Quran from FEDGOV eh? /s


20 posted on 08/11/2016 6:17:59 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (*Convicted of thought crimes by the Left and the Right*)
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