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1 posted on 08/09/2016 4:53:13 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Either incompetence or intentionality? What say you?


2 posted on 08/09/2016 4:54:48 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: Elderberry

They brazenly lie to the court, and for punishment they get to sit in the corner for an hour, at taxpayer expense?


3 posted on 08/09/2016 4:56:10 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Elderberry
...left the Court with an incorrect understanding of the facts... = lied like the weasel Democrat lawyers we are.
4 posted on 08/09/2016 4:56:32 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: Elderberry

Messed up! Bwahahahaha!

The DOJ needs a good house cleaning. Cockroaches are everywhere.


5 posted on 08/09/2016 4:56:52 PM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: Elderberry
“We do not dispute that we made mistakes that led to unfortunate circumstances here: at critical times we provided incomplete information to the Court because of our failure to appreciate the scope of the questions asked of us; and we used imprecise terminology in our oral and written submissions to the Court,” the brief reads.

Translation: "We are sorry we did not realize you weren't a bought and paid for judge"

6 posted on 08/09/2016 4:57:10 PM PDT by exit82 (Road Runner sez:" Let's Make America Beeping Great Again! Beep! Beep!")
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To: Elderberry

The DOJ falsified official documents and submitted them to a judge.

The first lesson one learns in law school is to never lie to a judge.

Moreover, falsifying official documents is the preferred method to cover-up larger crimes.

Judge Hanen needs to find out the nature of the larger crimes.


9 posted on 08/09/2016 4:58:33 PM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: Elderberry

They MUST BE JOKING!! Not intentional?? I’m sorry, sitting in an hour long ethics class won’t do it. Prosecute every one of them! THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT THESE PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND!! How much criminality has this Admin done?? NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE! How does the Judiciary expect the citizenry to ever trust a USA Government again? Yeah, I know, the sheeple will never be made aware of all the criminality because the Dems own Big Media.


10 posted on 08/09/2016 4:59:09 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Elderberry

Intentional, obviously.

Not a damn thing we can do about this corrupt regime either way.

...except elect Trump.


12 posted on 08/09/2016 4:59:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Elderberry

Obama “messed up” when he decided he would make up his own laws and implement the DREAM Act that was not an Act because it never passed Congress.
Presidents cannot legalize illegal aliens.
When he started to do that in July 2012, with DACA, the GOP should have hauled him into court the next day.
They did not because they wanted him to legaize illegal aliens.
When he expanded that illegal amnesty for illegal aliens to include the parents of the recently amnestied, the states stepped up and sued him because the worthless opposition party would not.
DAPA, Obama’s SECOND illegal amnesty for illegal aliens is what has been stopped.
He is still legalizing illegal aliens under DACA.


13 posted on 08/09/2016 5:00:42 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Elderberry

Hillary and Obama say the executive actions are constitutional anyway, so what this judge thinks is irrelevant.


16 posted on 08/09/2016 5:03:45 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Elderberry; Fred Nerks

Lawyers at the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) lied. Its the signature manifestation of the entire Obama regime and its cabinet officers. THEY LIE.Then everyone lies from the Cabinet Secretaries right on down to the lowliest civil servant

The whole mess of them would sooner lie than tell the truth. After all, that’s how they get the big bucks?

I think certain DOJ lawyers should be disbarred for it.

Meanwhile if you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor. And That young black man shot in righteous self defence? He could have been me, could have been my son.

To tell the honest truth, i wish it had been him, then the dirty bastid would not have been unleashed upon an unsuspecting nation voting enthusiastically for our “first black president.” He may have been first, and he may have been black (but I doubt even that), but he sure as hell was no president.


23 posted on 08/09/2016 5:26:50 PM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Elderberry

Meanwhile Obama is doing whatever the hell he feels like all along.


24 posted on 08/09/2016 5:27:48 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: Elderberry

The DOJ flunkies obviously short circuited.


28 posted on 08/09/2016 5:42:52 PM PDT by JPG (Go Trump!)
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To: Elderberry

Don’t miss the real backstory on this issue. Judge Hansen granted Texas a preliminary injunction against the DAPA policy, and that is the decision that was affirmed by the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, and “affirmed” in the SCOTUS in a tied 4-4 Per Curiam opinion. That sent the case back to Judge Hanen to try the case on the merits under the guidance of the 5th Circuit opinion.

In order to grant the preliminary injunction, Judge Hanen had to find it was likely for Texas to prevail upon the merits of the case. In so doing, he looked at the companion DACA program, which was implemented prior to DAPA. (DACA has not been successfully Constitutionally challenged. Mississippi and the Border Patrol union tried but found to have no standing to sue in Crane v. Johnson). In reviewing the DACA program, Judge Hanen found that there were no examples of a DACA applicant being turned down where they met minimal application requirements. Because of that, he found that the DACA program was not an exercise of discretion but instead the de facto creation of a new class of alien, which DHS was not authorized to do without Congressional action.

Since DAPA is the same program targeted to a different type of alien, Judge Hanen found it was the same unconstitutional creation of a new class of alien, and ordered the program halted.

But what the government did was go ahead and process DAPA applications, and lied to the Judge about it. Clearly unethical behavior, but done with a legal purpose. The purpose was to randomly draw some names out of the stack of applications and deny them. “See Judge, we ARE exercising discretion.” So when the case gets set for trial on the merits, the government can be expected to offer proof of their “discretion” and save the program.

The question is whether Judge Hanen will allow such evidence when it was obtained in under false pretenses of telling the Judge they were NOT processing DAPA applications.

Of course, this is all moot. Either Hillary Clinton will appoint the deciding 5th Justice for SCOTUS, who will rubber-stamp the approval of the DAPA program, or Donald Trump will rescind the program by executive order, and make further litigation moot.


29 posted on 08/09/2016 6:01:59 PM PDT by henkster
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To: Elderberry

Just like Hillary....yes we lied and obfuscated but we didn’t really mean to


31 posted on 08/09/2016 7:35:00 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Elderberry

No judge. THEY LIED!!! Start throwing Obamatons in jail. There is no other way.


33 posted on 08/09/2016 9:17:18 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Elderberry

“See, we are not corrupt. Just incompetent.”

Yeah. Right. Suuuure.


34 posted on 08/09/2016 10:10:41 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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