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To: odds

Based on various news journalists and items coming out (I live in Germany)...I’d make these three observations.

First, the kid was native-born, but in a minority group like the Iranians in Germany....he likely got dumped on a good bit by German-Turks. There’s no indication....at age 19....that he’d been employed anywhere, so I could see regular Germans calling him a ‘loser’.

Second, both parents were working and trying to make a decent income. Neither was around to note that the kid was screwed-up.

Third, the Muslim gimmick will fall into play, but this was a kid with no real future and a perfect candidate for their jihad-loser game.

The thing is, if you think about this as a German....there must be several thousand of these male teens of a Islamic nature who are naturally-developed losers. So, what exactly is going to prevent other massacres? No one can answer that question.

Oddly, under the old rules, you would have been drafted and gone off to the Bundeswehr at 18, and something would have fallen into place to catch this kid and give him a different prospective in life. But over the past decade, they’ve gotten rid of the mandatory time in the German army so that’s not helping.


6 posted on 07/23/2016 2:51:27 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

I agree with your assessment.

But, nothing has been found so far about his connection with any Islamist group or any accomplices. Also he had no criminal record and so far no record of attending mosques or any other connection indirectly with an Islamist group. I presume German police is still investigating.


10 posted on 07/23/2016 2:54:59 AM PDT by odds
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To: pepsionice
First, the kid was native-born, but in a minority group like the Iranians in Germany....he likely got dumped on a good bit by German-Turks. There’s no indication....at age 19....that he’d been employed anywhere, so I could see regular Germans calling him a ‘loser’.

Excellent assessment. Thanks for the view from Germany.

If this situation wasn't so tragic, it would be humorous. The loser finally does something in his life and the result is he spends his last minutes on Earth being taunted as a Turk -- the very people whom he hates most.
52 posted on 07/23/2016 4:35:54 AM PDT by SwampFoxSC
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To: pepsionice
Third, the Muslim gimmick will fall into play, but this was a kid with no real future and a perfect candidate for their jihad-loser game.

The thing is, if you think about this as a German....there must be several thousand of these male teens of a Islamic nature who are naturally-developed losers. So, what exactly is going to prevent other massacres? No one can answer that question.

Item #3: ready made excuse; not his fault

Just what America needs, millions of them /s

57 posted on 07/23/2016 4:56:48 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: pepsionice

How did he get the gun?


65 posted on 07/23/2016 5:08:37 AM PDT by nikos1121 (A Trump presidency will be like The Golden Age of Pericles in Greece)
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To: pepsionice

The parents are trying to make a decent living, he has no job and yet he has enough money to buy a black market gun


66 posted on 07/23/2016 5:09:08 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: pepsionice

You could say about the same thing of the ghetto kids in the US. No education, single parent on drugs, no male figure in life except the johns that provide the money for the drugs, and another baby to boost welfare payments. 120+ murders in Memphis, TN alone since Jan. Most black. 1 black mom just murdered her 4 children from baby to toddlers. They will say she is insane, do a few years in mental ward, after it takes 2 yrs to get to that verdict. Then walk free to reproduce more, and maybe kill those too. No punishment.

Black LIBTARD DEM run city.


82 posted on 07/23/2016 5:52:06 AM PDT by GailA (If politicians won't keep their promises to the Military, they won't keep them to you!)
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To: pepsionice
"First, the kid was native-born, but in a minority group like the Iranians in Germany....he likely got dumped on a good bit by German-Turks."

According to the transcript, it's not clear who made the comment about the "Turks." It might have been a bystander, not the shooter.

Nothing is yet clear about his motives, but I've read that many of the Muslims in Europe are - by choice and/or by discrimination - poorly integrated into society. Such an individual, particularly if personally taunted and mentally unstable, might use this as an excuse to wage personal Jihad unrelated to any formal terror group.

When millions of European Muslims are already unemployed, underemployed, and festering in ghettos, it seems madness to bring in millions more.
83 posted on 07/23/2016 5:53:14 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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It seems to me that the latest MO of ISIS type groups is to find some mentally unstable individual - not previously connected to any terror organization and thus not on the radar - and co-opt him for their cause.
89 posted on 07/23/2016 6:15:55 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: pepsionice

***he likely got dumped on a good bit by German-Turks.***

He appears to be a rather stout fellow from the videos I’ve seen. Definitely not the type to be normally picked on. In the past here in the USA it has always been younger weaker kids who took the brunt of bullying.


105 posted on 07/23/2016 7:51:36 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: pepsionice
"Third, the Muslim gimmick will fall into play, but this was a kid with no real future and a perfect candidate for their jihad-loser game.

The thing is, if you think about this as a German....there must be several thousand of these male teens of a Islamic nature who are naturally-developed losers. So, what exactly is going to prevent other massacres? No one can answer that question."

Fourth - and how did you miss this - it's a lead-pipe cinch the terrorist's parents are devout Iranian Shia Muslims, followers of the entire Ayatollah sect.

Sooooo, let's recap:

Radical. Islamic. Terrorism.

128 posted on 07/23/2016 11:52:17 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (PS - Vote Trump. Vote Coal.)
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To: pepsionice
Third, the Muslim gimmick will fall into play, but this was a kid with no real future and a perfect candidate for their jihad-loser game.

I agree with your assessment. Many young men grow up feeling lost and hopeless. Unable to socialize and to interact well with others. If you have the misfortune of coming from an Islamic background, you are offered an express ticket to Nirvana (and the awaiting 72 virgins) by murdering a bunch of kafirs while shouting 'Alluh Ackbar'. The religion tailored made for maladjusted, and perhaps mentally ill, young men.

Of course growing up in an atheistic and nilhistic environment can also spur similar actions to 'make a name for one's self' while they end it all, but Islam is unique in that it extends the lying carrot to these troubled men, and instigates many more of these murderous actions.

129 posted on 07/23/2016 11:56:22 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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