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How robots paved the way for Donald Trump
Yahoo Finance ^ | July 14,2016

Posted on 07/14/2016 7:01:27 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Think we don’t make anything in America any more? Think again. US manufacturing output is close to a record high, even when adjusted for inflation. The reason that sounds surprising is manufacturing jobs have been disappearing since the late 1980s, and now that number is just 12.3 million. Since 1989, manufacturing output has surged 69% while employment has fallen by 32%.

Manufacturers are doing more with less because of technology: computerized machines, streamlined processes, and on just about any factory floor that’s been built or revamped during the last 20 years, robots. “Automation is eating jobs from the inside out,” says Moshe Vardi, a professor of computational engineering at Rice University in Houston. “It’s the major cause of job losses in manufacturing.” There’s a different storyline in the presidential campaign, with Donald Trump blaming bad trade deals and unfair labor practices in China and Mexico for the loss of decent-paying blue-collar jobs in the United States.

“They’re eating our lunch,” Trump often says of trading partners that pay their workers below US standards and sell billions of cheap imports to Americans.

It’s easier to blame other countries for the loss of American jobs than it is to blame technology entrepreneurs, many of them American, who have revolutionized manufacturing and will continue to do so. But the numbers do suggest that technology has made many manufacturers far more productive and cut the need for human workers. These two charts show manufacturing output and employment during the last 30 years – and they’re clearly going in opposite directions.

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1 posted on 07/14/2016 7:01:27 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

And where are the robots being designed and built?


2 posted on 07/14/2016 7:03:29 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Hojczyk

The facts might be right

But a lot of plants have just moved everything overseas

For taxes and regulation

EPA chased all the chip plants overseas…chemicals


3 posted on 07/14/2016 7:04:22 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: ConservativeWarrior

My guess Japan


4 posted on 07/14/2016 7:05:07 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Actually, Robots AND China are eating our lunch. And the Chinese aren’t stupid, they are mechanizing too.


5 posted on 07/14/2016 7:06:06 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: Hojczyk

But robots won’t spit in my food, so I may once again be able to patronize fast food establishments once again.


6 posted on 07/14/2016 7:06:16 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Hojczyk

Yes, but manufacturing robotics, and making software and hardware for robotics opens up an entirely new sector for jobs. Unfortunately, too many of these jobs are not in the US.


7 posted on 07/14/2016 7:07:42 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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What a joke. American’s aren’t out of work because of robots. They are out of work because of artificially high minimum wages that eliminate starter jobs and, more importantly, because of open borders politicians who are letting the entire population of Latin America into the United States to work. If technology was the issue, we’d all be a lot richer if we went back to manufacturing methods from the late 1800s or early 1900s.


8 posted on 07/14/2016 7:07:44 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=John+Deere+Factory+Part+1&&view=detail&mid=1510F939C753A8FA13CD1510F939C753A8FA13CD&FORM=VRDGAR


9 posted on 07/14/2016 7:15:51 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Total and utter BS. Factories that have been completely automated and produce products with essentially ZERO labor content have been packed-up and moved lock, stock, and robots to low-cost countries in order to avoid punitive taxes, fees, and insurance rates.

Read Boston Consulting Group’s papers on “reshoring” to understand why this is starting to reverse despite horrible policies. Trump will accelerate the trend with favorable trade agreements and by ending punitive anti-business policies.


10 posted on 07/14/2016 7:17:57 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: Hojczyk

“Since 1989, manufacturing output has surged 69%”

Every time I hear this type of statistic I cringe. It makes it sound like manufacturing in this country is doing great, but what they don’t tell is how that compares with consumer spending.

The long term trend of consumer spending in this country is about 3.6%, so although manufacturing has “surged” 69% since 1989, consumer spending has surged somewhere around 160%. So where did the other 91% go? China, Mexico and all the other places Trump is talking about.

This article, by saying that adjusted for inflation, manufacturing is near all time high, is really saying that manufacturing in the US peeked in the 80’s and has grown very little since. Most of the growth in demand for products is being met by imports.

While the issue of automation is real, it doesn’t come close to accounting for the mass destruction of manufacturing jobs in this country.


11 posted on 07/14/2016 7:18:00 AM PDT by pb929
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To: Hojczyk
Bull

Automation has not displaced American workers.

Automation has been taking place since the 1920s and has driven economic expansion, productivity and economic growth and raised standards of living to levels not believed possible.

A perfect example is the rise of high speed computer controlled machine tools. there are now more high skilled machinists than there were back in the days of counting the thousandths on a manual machine .

CNC systems have started entire new industries

There are also software programmer jobs, technician jobs and support jobs than ever

12 posted on 07/14/2016 7:20:30 AM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Milleraereh)
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13 posted on 07/14/2016 7:21:29 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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Well, seeing this comes from yahoo - a Marissa Meyer and Katie Couric anti-Trump website, I’d take this with a grain of salt.

Robots are a factor, to be sure, but other non-tecnological issues abound in this country. Most stemming from a communist-leaning government.

The take home of this of course is that Trump is all wet. Sorry girls, Mr. Trump knows exactly whereof he speaks.


14 posted on 07/14/2016 7:21:35 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Hojczyk
The writer of the article is not one of the sharper knives in the financial drawer. He cites macro economic statistics to support a fallacious point. All macro "economics" are, are statistical aggregations of data; until you break down the data being aggregated into the micro economics, actually involved; you have little or nothing of value.

The only thing to get out of this piece is that Yahoo is biased against Donald Trump. Some of us have already noticed that. We have also noticed that Donald's detractors always tend to be less cerebral than our candidate, who is well aware of the many once great American Corporations, who have been manufacturing less and less of their merchandise in the United States.

It is that reality that is devastating communities across the sub-continent. But that awareness is apparently over Yahoo heads--either of the local variety or of those whom Gulliver discovered on his fourth voyage.

15 posted on 07/14/2016 7:27:24 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Ro-bertz! They took err jerbs!!!! ;)


16 posted on 07/14/2016 7:29:57 AM PDT by Salgak (You're in Strange Hands with Tom Stranger. . . .)
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17 posted on 07/14/2016 7:30:01 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Hojczyk

I think you’re right. Used to be even Hershey would design and build their own machinery. Now that’s all gone.


18 posted on 07/14/2016 7:35:40 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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Factories relocated to China and Latin America also make use of robots and automation, and yet they still have a high demand for human labor as well.


19 posted on 07/14/2016 7:51:10 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Hojczyk
Chinese Robots eating my lunch??


20 posted on 07/14/2016 7:55:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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