Posted on 06/29/2016 12:31:49 AM PDT by Cronos
..It is the English Channel, that helps define our relationship with the rest of Europe.
These isles have very rarely been in isolation from it, whether splendid or otherwise. How could it be, as one historian recently argued, when the Magna Carta was signed by French nobles and the Bill of Rights designed for a Dutch prince?
But it has always kept a beady eye on other powers across the water.
It has been often concerned with stopping other European powers dominating the continent, playing one off against another.
... there are only a couple of European countries who are "out", and firmly intend to stay out. All the others, or at least their leaders, want a share in this deeply political expression of a dream.
.. To many in the UK being part of the EU was a hard-headed economic relationship, about free markets, selling and buying stuff. It was a sort of second best, a consolation prize after the loss of empire, but not one that had a similar place in patriots' hearts.
But for nearly all the other countries it was a refuge. It was a home they were constructing as a bulwark against history, against horror.
Germany was fleeing its role in spreading death and destruction to every corner of the continent, fleeing its own political ambitions. France was running away from defeat and occupation, from humiliation and powerlessness.
So were many other countries. Greece, Portugal and Spain found refuge - in an imagined future - from the real past of right-wing dictatorships. The countries of the East were replacing communist tyranny with a new attempt to create peace and democracy.
The thought that war could once again ravage a continent.. do not seem so funny to many on the continent.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
While readers of some British newspapers have been treated to stories of little Britain being bullied by the big commission, that is not how you see it if you are, say, Portuguese or Latvian.
Then you would see, time after time, Britain being given a special deal, treated with kid gloves and washed with buckets of soft soap.
They say we've won. We won and turned Europe on to a free-market, anti-statist, liberal economic agenda.
We won on enlargement - the unlovely word for our insistence that the EU couldn't wait, and had to rapidly take in the countries of the former communist block.
wow. More garbage in those words than at the old staten island dump.
The EU became a monster and quite willingly let muzzies invade in incredible numbers, and who knows if Europe can bounce back.
I figure that here, the only reason the BBC would be posted would be for satire.
I hope that was the reason.
“Germans will love it, the French will ignore it and the Italians and the Irish will be too chaotic to enforce it. Only the British will resent it”. - Sir Humphrey Appelby Yes Minister
“We won and turned Europe on to a free-market, anti-statist, liberal economic agenda.”
How can they possibly claim EU = ‘anti-statist’ ?
Surreal.
Which is exactly why the Brits voted to exit. They could see the EU leadership importing war in to the EU in the form of Muslim invaders.
Question: Why is the Middle East perpetually at war for 1600 years?
Answer: Because it is dominated by Muslims.
If you bring enough of there here; here becomes there.
> ... say, Portuguese or Latvian.
This guy is truly flaunting his lack of higher order thinking.
Since when did anyone care a bit what Portuguese or Latvians were thinking about the EU (of all things)? Since when should the Brits care what they think? Is the EU controversy some kind of high school popularity contest? Or like the theme of a Survivor episode rerun?? And which Portuguese and which Latvians is he referring to— The people on the street, or the politicians and banksters?
And his use of the word “We” is very presumptuous. How can he use the word “we” with a straight face when the “we” voted the EU out?
Sheesh...
The EU reported giving the BBC over £4 million GBP just in 2012.
The main funding stream of the BBC is the licence fee: but that money is accountable and its use governed by charter.
These EU grants (and also frequent heavy loans to BBC subsidiaries) are not accountable to the UK license fee-payer.
There are similar patterns with other UK entities such as the RSPB, which is lavishly funded with EU money (taken by force from UK taxpayers) and which in return is slavishly pro-EU.
LOL The Germans are now pushing for a “referendum.”
And "Europe" you state is really only Germany-France-UK-Sweden who have this problem, not Central and Eastern EUrope
He said that the UK turned Europe to that — the initial proposals by France were worse and the British tempered it and got tacit approval from Germany (who didn’t want to oppose France) and open support from former Warsaw-Pact countries
The Brits are already and were already importing their own Mozzie invaders from Paki land.
Brussels Proposes Ending Any Right to Vote to Exit EU as well as to surrender the right of any member state to have their own army, rule of law, taxation systems, central banks, and to effectively transfer all power to Brussels.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/brussels-proposes-ending-any-right-to-vote-to-exit-eu/
>>LOL The Germans are now pushing for a “referendum.”
When you say that, a Transnational Progressive stomps his feet and shouts, “ NO. That is not the narrative! Stop saying that.”
The Tranzis believe that Britain will sink into the ocean without the EU.
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