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To: lqcincinnatus

The right of states to secede was eliminated by combat in the Civil War.


2 posted on 06/25/2016 10:11:59 AM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: kennedy

Saying it don’t make it so. Is that a Obama law?


3 posted on 06/25/2016 10:13:25 AM PDT by lqcincinnatus (Silence in the face of evil is itself evil.)
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To: kennedy

They need to sue under the 14th, 13th, and probably the 10th amendments. They are being held in servitude. Individuals who did not vote for the constitution are being held hostage by what their forefathers did. Lastly, since we have open borders under president horesass, why have state’s held hostage to a border?


10 posted on 06/25/2016 10:20:05 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: kennedy

Texas is different than the other states. It was an independent republic before joining....


15 posted on 06/25/2016 10:22:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: kennedy

It makes you wonder what would happen today, if a state wanted to secede.

Would the president send the armed forces in to force a state to stay in the union, as happened during the Civil War?

Would we really see armed conflict today, over such a movement?

There is no legal provision that I am aware of, for states to leave the union.

If a state voted to secede, I figure that Congress in Washington would have to vote to allow them to leave. Legally speaking anyway.

If a state voted to secede, and just decided to ignore all federal laws, didn’t pay federal income taxes withheld from employees to the IRS, and other actions, then that would up the ante as far as what the federal government would do to force a state to stay.


30 posted on 06/25/2016 10:38:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kennedy

The Civil War was just the opening battle. No country lasts forever.


57 posted on 06/25/2016 11:49:34 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: kennedy
The right of states to secede was eliminated by combat in the Civil War.

So, in your mind, European states are free to vote to leave an oppressive and overbearing bureaucracy that is no longer representing their needs, but American states do not enjoy this Freedom? Pray tell what other rights and powers the winning and losing states all lost in that war. If you read the Constitution, the very noticeable difference between the pre-Antebellum Amendments and the post-Antebellum Amendments is that they USED to all say "Congress shall not", and afterwards, they all say "Congress SHALL have the power". Seems like the result of the Civil War was to grab many many more powers, not relinquish them.

66 posted on 06/25/2016 1:29:26 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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