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Oregon standoff: Case of possible misconduct by FBI in LaVoy Finicum shooting now before grand jury
OregonLive ^ | 6/23/2016 | Maxine Bernstein

Posted on 06/25/2016 4:27:31 AM PDT by Nextrush

The federal investigation into an FBI agent's apparent firing of gunshots at Robert "LaVoy" Finicum and the alleged FBI tampering with evidence at the scene has gone to a grand jury.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Charles Gorder Jr. revealed the grand jury hearing in court papers Thursday explaining the government's desire to keep its memorandum about the inspector general's investigation into the FBI's handling of the Jan. 26 shooting out of the hands of defense lawyers.

"The Declaration provides details of an ongoing investigation by the United States Department of Justice, Office of Inspector General, and concerns matters occurring before the grand jury protected from disclosure,' Gorder wrote to the court....

Defense lawyers in the Oregon standoff case have asked the judge to compel the government to turn over the investigators records regarding the FBI's alleged misconduct.

Late Wednesday, Brown said she'd allow prosecutors to file the memo under seal, but ruled it must be shared with defense lawyers. She said, however, that she would allow the government to make further argument why it shouldn't be shared with the defense.

That led to Gorder's expanded legal brief, noting the federal investigation is before a grand jury......

Updated June 24, 2016 Defense lawyer Per C. Olson replied to Gorder's filing, saying federal law allows for the court to authorize disclosure of a grand jury matter if it's connected with a judicial proceeding. Olson urged the court to accept the government's memo under seal, but allow defense lawyers access to it....

Judge Brown rules prosecutors haven't met the bar to file the document only with the court, so must file it sealed, and share it with defense lawyers.

The practice of filing legal briefs out of the eye of one party in a pending criminal proceeding, the judge wrote is "strongly disfavored."

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


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When LaVoy Finicum was shot on Jan. 26th the FBI fired the first live rounds as LaVoy's truck went into the snow and LaVoy emerged. These shots and LaVoy's reaction I believe led to the Oregon State Police troopers shooting at LaVoy and his death.

The FBI killed LaVoy and these agents deserve more than perjury charges for lying and covering up their gunshots.

We shall see what this grand jury thing is all about as we move on.

The federal prosecutors are using the grand jury to justify withholding evidence from defense lawyers ahead of the trial for the protestors at the refuge scheduled to begin September 7th.

1 posted on 06/25/2016 4:27:32 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

Silly. You can’t sue the King!


2 posted on 06/25/2016 4:35:22 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Nextrush

It was once said that, “the people get the rulers they deserve.”

We have the MOST corrupt government in our nations history.


3 posted on 06/25/2016 4:40:59 AM PDT by stockpirate (Make America Mexico Again - MAMA end sarcasm)
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To: Nextrush

Is Mr. Horiuchi doing all their training. Don’t know how these people live with themselves let alone the fear of God’s Judgement.


4 posted on 06/25/2016 4:42:50 AM PDT by mcshot (The "Greatest Generation" would never have allowed the trashing of our Republic.)
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To: Nextrush

If the members of the grand jury know what’s good for ‘em . . .


5 posted on 06/25/2016 4:50:07 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: mcshot

Its a federal grand jury and we don’t know what kind of charges, if any, will come out of it. Lying and tampering with evidence seem obvious. All five agents denied shots being fired and the drone shows them searching the snow to remove the shell casings observed by Oregon law enforcement right after the shooting.


6 posted on 06/25/2016 4:50:45 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: stockpirate

And we are the most degenerate people to populate America.


7 posted on 06/25/2016 5:17:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Is that you Barky?


8 posted on 06/25/2016 5:23:47 AM PDT by mkjessup (Hillary Rotten Criminal is a f--king murdering sociopath. You want that in the Oval Office?)
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To: mcshot

“Is Mr. Horiuchi doing all their training?”

A name that will live in infamy.


9 posted on 06/25/2016 5:40:45 AM PDT by Captain7seas
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To: Nextrush

Those feds should be placed in cages and then handed over to ISIS.


10 posted on 06/25/2016 6:14:39 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: stockpirate
It was once said that, “the people get the rulers they deserve.”

We have the MOST corrupt government in our nations history.

That will rankle some, but it is our own apathy and lack of drive and personal courage to face up to the PC movement (silent majority sitting with their thumbs up their butts) that has allowed things to go the way they have.

Trump may not be perfect but he is exactly what we need at this critical point in history.

GO TRUMP!!!

11 posted on 06/25/2016 6:15:48 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Nextrush

There won’t be any charges against the FBI come out of it.


12 posted on 06/25/2016 6:21:31 AM PDT by sport
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To: Nextrush; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

13 posted on 06/25/2016 6:32:44 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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If they hadn't lied, there wouldn't be. Person identified at the traffic stop, known to be armed, flees from the stop, crashes at the road block and comes busting out of the truck. I am betting the FBI agent would get away with those two shots.

Now that he has made a false official statement, lied to investigators, picked up his brass, and gotten some other agents to lie with him, they are all toast. The best they can hope for is no criminal prosecution, but they can't be agents anymore because the record of this incident would be discoverable in any other case they are involved in.

14 posted on 06/25/2016 7:40:49 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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So you are saying that OSP and FBI needs to hire a few more assassins because we just cant use these any more.


15 posted on 06/25/2016 8:17:55 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Nextrush

Thanks for the update.


16 posted on 06/25/2016 8:23:11 AM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
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The shots by the OSP came way after the 2 shots shots by the FBI. Had Finicum not continued to spin around and dropped his hands into his jacket, he wouldn't have been shot.

The FBI HRT are guys whose tool box only has a hammer. Mr. Finicum was determined to make himself look like a nail.

Driving away from a law enforcement stop, jumping out of a vehicle after almost hitting the road block, rapid furtive movements, and multiple cries to "just shoot me" aren't ways to a peaceful outcome.

17 posted on 06/25/2016 9:00:16 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Everything proceeded just as the authorities wished. And they got just what they wanted.

They forced a man into a box to get the reaction that they knew would come. His reaction to their ambush is their justification in killing him.

The statements of the 2 OSP shooters that both shot LaVoy Finicum in the back were textbook. The FBI shots missed their targets but they just couldnt resist popping off a few rounds with everyone else. Then lying about it.


18 posted on 06/25/2016 9:19:00 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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Nobody made him drive to Oregon. Nobody made him hole up on federal property, nobody made him not comply with the traffic stop, drive away from the traffic stop at high speed, jump out of his vehicle, or scream "just shoot me!"

If it was an ambush, why didn't anybody else die? All the other protestors gave up. They all swore to go out shooting, but somebody forgot to tell Lavoy they didn't really mean it.

19 posted on 06/25/2016 9:33:33 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Yeah, sure. OK.


20 posted on 06/25/2016 9:40:12 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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