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What Does It take to Be Upper Middle Class?
Of Two Minds ^ | 21 June 2016 | Charles Hugh Smith

Posted on 06/24/2016 12:48:21 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: Lorianne

Obviously the definition is subjective, I would suggest Upper Middle Class could be defined as having $50,000 - $100,000 of disposable income after the mandatory and essential costs have been paid (taxes, housing costs, utilities, insurance, and food).


22 posted on 06/24/2016 1:41:33 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Lorianne

A job with the government is the quickest path to becoming a member of the upper middle class.


23 posted on 06/24/2016 1:49:31 PM PDT by caltaxed
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To: Lorianne

$2 million in cash plus properties


24 posted on 06/24/2016 1:50:48 PM PDT by Yaelle (Make America Safe Again)
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To: Lorianne

What does it take to be upper middle class?

Being able to ask, “Pardon me, but would you happen to have any Grey Poupon?” and knowing that the answer will be “But of course!”

;^)


25 posted on 06/24/2016 1:57:04 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: grania

High income doesn’t equal high net worth. That hasn’t changed since the Millionaire Next Door came out.


26 posted on 06/24/2016 2:06:02 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Lorianne
at least $100,000 a year for a family of three.

That would be virtually every UAW auto worker in S.E. Michigan who has the opportunity for overtime..........go figure.

27 posted on 06/24/2016 2:09:16 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Lorianne

$100,000 maybe in nice places like Nebraska

at least $500,000 in LA or SF or NYC


28 posted on 06/24/2016 2:25:19 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

And, that’s obviously with both adults working.

For me, I have a family of 6 people, 7 animals. (Wife, 3 kids, dad, dogs/cats, and myself). So, my salary, at less than 100,000, puts me at not in the upper middle class.

And to think, my dad making 2/3rds what I make now was upper middle class in the early/mid 80’s.

Purchasing power has eroded and is almost unbelievably low.


29 posted on 06/24/2016 2:25:21 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: Lorianne
In SE Michigan - upper middle class starts at $250,000 with no kids. I know lots of couples that top that, and they don't seem 'upper middle class' to me.

Throw in a couple of kids, maybe $300,000.
30 posted on 06/24/2016 2:35:47 PM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: Lorianne

What does it take to be upper middle class? Quiet farts.


31 posted on 06/24/2016 2:46:03 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Lorianne
Youtube: Bob Seger "UMC". Sorry, I don't know how to link to sites.
32 posted on 06/24/2016 3:54:45 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Don’t know about other parts of the country, but I would say in the greater NY metro area (including Long Island and the upper 1/2 of NJ) you’d need AT LEAST $600,000 per year in income to be considered “upper middle class” if you had any more than one child.


33 posted on 06/24/2016 5:07:22 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: vsEPAwarrior

Have one child that is almost ready for college.

The property tax on a 1800 sq ft home is $510 a month. Will have the mortgage paid off in two years but the property tax will continue to rise forever.

The taxes to pay off all the union employees in government is what kills you.


34 posted on 06/25/2016 6:34:23 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: jocon307

That’s a bit of an exaggeration. It’s about $300k to have a nice house in a good school district with most the trimmings in the NY suburbs — so $300k, maybe $350k for a two earning family given the costs of the second income. You can spend vastly more, but you don’t have to do so to hold your head high. $90k in deductible mortgage interest, property tax, and state income tax, $60k in federal income and payroll tax, and $150k for cost of living and savings.


36 posted on 06/27/2016 7:11:40 AM PDT by only1percent ( who)
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Eh, to me that would make you middle class but not upper middle class. And I don’t know how far out you are going in your NYC suburbs, but my mom-in-law’s house sold for over 500K in late 2007, it’s about 40 minutes outside of Manhattan in Nassau County. It might sell for less that that now, but nowhere near 300K.


37 posted on 06/27/2016 8:20:59 PM PDT by jocon307
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