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Group Says There’s Interest in Third-Party Run From Governors, Senators
ABC News ^ | SHUSHANNAH WALSHE

Posted on 06/17/2016 3:35:53 PM PDT by ErikJohnsky

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To: Lurkinanloomin
This is the Cheap Labor Express trying to insure that the citizens cannot stop them.

No the elected class are trying hard to hold onto their corrupt empire.

21 posted on 06/17/2016 4:25:55 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump kills PC-Hillary kills USA-Pick one.)
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They can’t get on the ballot in Texas.


22 posted on 06/17/2016 4:44:57 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: ErikJohnsky
Now, let's see, the same people who failed "We, the People" by not defending our rights of conscience from the dictates and censorship, regulation, redistribution and debt of "progressives" and their imperial president--these same people (Ryan, Boehner, McConnell, et al) whose failure to deny funding and halt those intrusions into our liberty, and aroused "the People" to vote for Candidate Trump, are now urging other Republicans to override their fellow Republicans' votes and choose their own candidate. Then, there's the failed 2012 candidate who couldn't put up a principled fight to save America from another four years.

No wonder the First President of this Republic issued a grave warning for future generations on the "dangers" of the "spirit of Party"!

George Washington on the Baneful Effects of Political Parties

“Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party...”

Excerpts from George Washington’s Farewell Address
September 19, 1796
 

“... One of the expedients of Party to acquire influence, within particular districts, is to misrepresent the opinions & aims of other Districts. You cannot shield yourselves too much against the jealousies & heart burnings which spring from these misrepresentations. They tend to render Alien to each other those who ought to be bound together by fraternal Affection.
...

“All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and Associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, controul counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the Constituted authorities are distructive of this fundamental principle and of fatal tendency. They serve to Organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force — to put in the place of the delegated will of the Nation, the will of a party; often a small but artful and enterprizing minority of the Community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public Administration the Mirror of the ill concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the Organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common councils and modefied by mutual interests. However combinations or Associations of the above description may now & then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the Power of the People, & to usurp for themselves the reins of Government; destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

“... in a country so extensive as ours, a Government of as much vigour as is consistent with the perfect security of Liberty is indispensable — Liberty itself will find in such a Government, with powers properly distributed and adjusted, its surest Guardian. It is indeed little else than a name, where the Government is too feeble to withstand the enterprises of faction ...

“I have already intimated to you the danger of Parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on Geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, & warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party, generally.

“This Spirit, unfortunately, is inseperable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human Mind. It exists under different shapes in all Governments, more or less stifled, controuled, or repressed; but in those of the popular form it is seen in its greatest rankness and is truly their worst enemy.

“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissention, which in different ages & countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders & miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security & repose in the absolute power of an Individual: and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

“Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight) the common & continual mischiefs of the spirit of Party are sufficient to make it the interest and the duty of a wise People to discourage and restrain it.

“It serves always to distract the Public Councils and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill founded Jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot & insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence & corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country, are subjected to the policy and will of another.
 

“There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the Administration of the Government and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true--and in Governments of a Monarchical cast Patriotism may look with endulgence, if not with favour, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate & assuage it. A fire not to be quenched; it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest instead of warming it should consume."

23 posted on 06/17/2016 4:49:05 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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Never in my life have I seen so many supposed Republicans so willing to give up their freedom to Hillary Clinton..the one thing Trump has done is expose these people for what they are

It's astonishing. Just astonishing. The GOP needs to be cleaned out!

24 posted on 06/17/2016 5:20:04 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: ErikJohnsky

<Why are these people called “conservative?” What does conservative mean these days? Certainly, anymore it does not mean such things as national sovereignty or limited govt. I wish these so-called “conservatives” would define their conservatism. Certainly whatever it is they believe, it is not what John Locke believed.


25 posted on 06/17/2016 6:36:22 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: VerySadAmerican

They do not care if they do not get on the ballot in every state, what they care about is making sure no candidate gets enough electoral votes to win. They want to throw this election into the House where the GOPe-controlled congress critters can give (probably) Jeb the White House. They don’t care about winning outright, if they can’t stop Trump at the convention, then this is their next step.

They would prefer Jeb or Romney or Ryan as president, but if not, then Hillary is acceptable. I suspect that they fear that Trump will do to them exactly what Sarah Palin did to the corrupt Republican party leaders, and that is prosecute, convict and throw them out of office and into prison.

And I hope he does, I hope he goes in there and cleans up the House and the Senate, regardless of party, and we can have a clean slate of candidates.

The good thing is they are probably making Trump angry enough that he will make it one of his first priorities to direct the DOJ and the FBI to investigate and prosecute these traitors.

Anyway, I hope he does.


26 posted on 06/17/2016 6:52:58 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Let’s not forget these “republicans” who don’t want to give up their foreign money, chamber of commerce money, lobbyist money. They don’t give a rat’s patuttie for the people who put them into office. They are, for the most part, egomaniac, self serving, arrogant, money grabbing, power hungry fools. Let’s remember who they are, at election time and send them someplace, because 98 percent won’t return to the area they came from.


27 posted on 06/17/2016 6:53:25 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: ErikJohnsky
The whole scheme seems half-baked. On their website they claim they can get on the ballot in 48 states whose ballot access deadlines have not passed. But Texas is one of the states they have missed, and in some others, like Florida they would need to get almost 120,000 signatures by July 15th.

Unless they have a lot of experience in the actual process of getting large numbers of voter signatures collected, filed, and approved it seems unlikely that they will be able to get on the ballot in Florida or other states with deadlines in the next few weeks.

28 posted on 06/17/2016 7:23:49 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ErikJohnsky

A decent, civilized candidate would be welcome instead of the two obscenities we’ve been presented with by tens of millions of bipartisan commies sucking their fat salaries and pensions from this socialist regime of recirculating debt.


29 posted on 06/17/2016 7:30:47 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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More...http://archive.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/03/15/romney_backers_paid_the_expenses_of_some_to_attend_tenn_poll/


30 posted on 06/17/2016 7:31:17 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: ErikJohnsky

I will never vote again for a candidate endorsed by Mitt “I prefer the Butcher of Benghazi to Trump” Romney. Ever.


31 posted on 06/17/2016 7:31:58 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: texteacher

The ruling class is upset with the choice of the peasants...time for the elites to pull out their trump card...um, in this case the NON Trump card.


That’s it right there. The “Republican” elites don’t hate Trump. They hate us. They want us dead in a fire for daring to not support their preselected candidates.


32 posted on 06/17/2016 7:34:21 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: ErikJohnsky
"John Kingston, a Boston-based conservative donor who bundled for Mitt Romney, is bankrolling the Harold Stassen group..."
33 posted on 06/17/2016 9:18:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (When a Muslim terrorist shoots up a gay bar, itÂ’s not gun violence.ItÂ’s Islamic terrorism.Greenfie)
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To: ErikJohnsky

Better for America” was set up to ensure a third party candidate will be on the ballot in all fifty states. John Kingston, a Boston-based conservative donor who bundled for Mitt Romney, is bankrolling the group, AND STRESSES THIS NEW EFFORT IS BIPARTISAN. THE GROUP HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH BOTH INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS — “senators, governors, congressman, highly regarded people from the Armed Services” - who are willing to take on the New York real estate mogul and former secretary of state.


Further confirmation of the Elite Uniparty!


34 posted on 06/17/2016 9:49:15 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism&#128077;)
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To: loveliberty2

Washington spoke about the ‘spirit of party’ and describes what we have devolved to perfectly. Thanks low life involvement.
“It serves always to distract the Public Councils and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill founded Jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot & insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence & corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country, are subjected to the policy and will of another.””
Wake up USA especially on third party issues.


35 posted on 06/18/2016 4:16:48 AM PDT by Recompennation
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