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The Washington Poo is right ... we must not infringe on others rights if they haven't committed a crime ... unless they own a gun ... want to fly a confederate flag ... or worship at a Christian Church!

1 posted on 06/17/2016 10:58:34 AM PDT by Zakeet
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Citizens should not forfeit their rights if they haven't committed a crime.

Other than Second Amendment rights. If you are on a "no fly list" made up by some bureaucrat, then you can lose those. Oh the irony.

2 posted on 06/17/2016 11:00:36 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Wrong!!They should have put a stop on him buying guns and they could have arrested him for lying on his forms.


3 posted on 06/17/2016 11:00:51 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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The crime was Islam. Islam is essentially banned in Angola because they know what it is.


4 posted on 06/17/2016 11:01:44 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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The Washington Post is trying to shift the issue. No, the feds didn’t have the right to arrest him. But that’s not the question. The questions are why was he taken off the watch list and how did he ever get security clearance to work for a DHS private contractor.


5 posted on 06/17/2016 11:02:09 AM PDT by grania
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Citizens should not forfeit their rights if they haven't committed a crime.

That is true. The bizarre thing is that they couldn't find a crime to indict him for or a cause to have him declared mentally incompetent.

Disney called, “Hey this guy has visited Disneyworld SIX TIMES in the past year...”

Gun store called.

He beat his wife.

He knew suicide-bombers.

He’d traveled abroad for weapons training.

Orlando Shooter Traveled to Saudi Arabia in 2011, 2012: MSNBC

Former Coworker of ISIS Killer Omar Mateen: Employer Did Nothing About His Homophobic-Racist

High School Classmate of Omar Mateen: He Cheered 9-11 Attacks

Elementary school classmate says Omar Mateen was suspended for threatening to go on shooting rampage

7 posted on 06/17/2016 11:04:41 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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Islamofacism is the disease!! E= MC2 is the cure!!


11 posted on 06/17/2016 11:07:27 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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They couldn’t arrest him from a civilian law enforcement perspective. A wartime counter terrorism perspective is a different matter.


12 posted on 06/17/2016 11:07:47 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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Dear Media, please leave this guy alone...


13 posted on 06/17/2016 11:09:11 AM PDT by Paradox (Opinions can evolve, but Principles should be immutable.)
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FYI, this appears to be a guest editorial by Glenn Greenwald. He's not a regular Post columnist.

Greenwald is also on the team of people that blew the lid off the NSA's warrantless wiretapping program.

If you read the rest of the article, he makes some very good points, and almost says exactly what Ben Franklin said:

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

14 posted on 06/17/2016 11:09:44 AM PDT by justlurking
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I have never seen a media outlet more in the tank for all things leftist as the Compost.


15 posted on 06/17/2016 11:10:31 AM PDT by Angels27
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Trump: ‘We just took the press credentials away’ from The Post

June 16, 2016 1:41 PM EDT - Republican Maryland governor Larry Hogan has publicly admitted he isn’t voting for Republican presumptive presidential nominee Donald Trump. Here are the many times Logan has said he won’t back Trump’s run for the White House. (Claritza Jimenez / The Washington Post)

WARNING: Anything you read from Washington Post is probably a lie....


16 posted on 06/17/2016 11:11:21 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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“See something, say something” is all but officially dead.


17 posted on 06/17/2016 11:12:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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Glenn Greenwald is a moron if he believes his argument.

Specious unctuous beside the point straw man crap.


19 posted on 06/17/2016 11:15:29 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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The FBI failed on this very badly. It was the “Rules od Engagement” and political correctness that once again killed many innocent Americans. All of these killers were Wahhabi Sect Sunnis but we don’t have a clue?


22 posted on 06/17/2016 11:18:11 AM PDT by WENDLE (Ban Wahhabi sect Sunnis here not our GUNS!!)
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Deear mr/mz/glad whatever the you folk are at wopo, that’s why you push unconstitutional Gun Grabs???F U MoFos!


24 posted on 06/17/2016 11:19:06 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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Did the FBI interview him? Did they get a judge to approve a wire tap? Did they put put him under surveillance? None of those things violate a person’s rights and could have prevented the latest Muslim massacre.

Obama’s a piece of America hating trash, but at least he isn’t Islamophobic.


27 posted on 06/17/2016 11:20:54 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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His domestic violence and mental illness issues never made it to the NICS process to preclude his purchases or revoke his existing licenses. Government regulation is pointless if it is not implemented.
29 posted on 06/17/2016 11:21:15 AM PDT by Myrddin
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So the best we have is wait for a terrorist scumbag to shoot up the place, and then the government can say, yup, we had him under surveillance. For Pete’s sake, the only chance anyone has, under those conditions, is to be armed.


30 posted on 06/17/2016 11:21:31 AM PDT by fhayek
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The problem is that this goon was not a legitimate citizen.

Read the fine print on your US passport. It cites the laws under which you forfeit your US citizenship. Among them is training or serving with a foreign fighting force.

Mateen’s stint with the Taliban in Afghanistan is enough for him to have forfeited his US citizenship.

He should never have been allowed reentry into the US, since DHS and FBI both knew about him training with the Taliban.


39 posted on 06/17/2016 11:28:22 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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The question is not if he should have been arrested, but why he was allowed to obtain guns.

The sole purpose of background checks is to prevent possibly/certainly dangerous people from obtaining guns.

He was crazy.

He was a wife-beater.

Either/both of those two should be sufficient to bar his purchases.

The FBI could have requested the gun dealer not to sell him a gun, even if they were legally unable to block a sale.


46 posted on 06/17/2016 11:38:13 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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