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Vanity: Democrats and the media push for lifting the blood donation ban on gay men
various | 6/14/16 | Faith Presses On

Posted on 06/14/2016 7:37:23 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

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To: Faith Presses On

PRE-donate your OWN blood for yourself...bank it...rather than risking a transfusion of gay AIDS blood!


21 posted on 06/14/2016 7:45:17 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: 2banana

You can’t pick family, you are basically stuck, so no.


22 posted on 06/14/2016 7:45:24 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen... -Emerson)
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To: Faith Presses On
Simple research will find that the Clinton's enabled and approved state and Federal prisoners in Arkansas to donate blood used in transfusions toward hemophiliacs in Canada. Hillary and Bill almost single handed exterminated those affected with hemophilia in Canada during the 1980’s for profit.
23 posted on 06/14/2016 7:45:37 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Faith Presses On

10 years ago I was very anemic and received a blood transfusion. If these leftists had their way I would have gotten AIDS..perhaps these leftists who want gay blood so badly can have it transfused into their bodies and if they get AIDS oh well


24 posted on 06/14/2016 7:47:18 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Faith Presses On

Liberals are a death cult....they hate themselves & they hate life. The rest of us are just in the way.


25 posted on 06/14/2016 7:48:18 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Faith Presses On

What could possibly go wrong?


26 posted on 06/14/2016 7:48:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Faith Presses On
Huh.

I had no idea the blood supply could be considered safe, I thought AIDS, hepatitis and the whole toxic petri dish of homosexual diseases had long ago been green-lighted into the general blood/plasma supply cuz "homophobia" and "unfairness" and stuff.

I have zero doubts the homosexuals will prevail in their efforts to taint/poison blood/plasma products because everyone should be exposed to the consequences of homosexual behavior, especially the 'privileged'.

27 posted on 06/14/2016 7:48:57 PM PDT by BloodScarletMinnesota
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The ban likely also isn’t just about AIDS, but other concerns like hepatitis.

And from CNN:

“Every unit of blood donated in the United States must undergo 13 tests, including 10 for infectious diseases (such as HIV, hepatitis and syphilis).

“The use of donor education material, specific deferral questions and advances in donor testing have reduced the risk of HIV transmission from a blood transfusion to about 1 in 1.5 million to 2 million blood units, according to the National Institutes of Health.

“While it is possible to detect HIV in a unit of blood nine to 11 days after infection, the NIH says that once a person is infected with HIV, it generally takes about three months for the body to produce enough antibodies to be detected by an HIV antibody test. For some people, it can take up to six months.”

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/13/health/orlando-shooting-gay-men-donate-blood/


28 posted on 06/14/2016 7:50:43 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: longtermmemmory

Yes. I thought of that. The blood all over some had to be tainted with Hep B and C. HIV only lives 30 seconds outside the body.


29 posted on 06/14/2016 7:52:49 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Faith Presses On

This should be a medical decision, not a political one.


30 posted on 06/14/2016 7:53:40 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Apparently, most people are fine with what Obama is doing, while he ignores our problems.)
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To: Faith Presses On
It's not a ban on happy men giving blood or even on men who "like" other men. It's a ban on men who have had sex with other men within the past year. When they mentioned that fact on the radio tonight, they had an expert who immediately said that most people have sex more than once a year neglecting to mention the problem of latent infection.

Here's some stuff from a San Fran AIDS site

There's a period of time after a person is infected during which they won't test positive. This is called the “hiv window period.”

The window period can be from 9 days to 3 months, depending on the person's body and on the HIV test that's used. During that time, you can test HIV negative even though you're HIV positive. You can still catch HIV from someone who is in the window period. In fact, there is evidence that a person in the window period is more likely to pass the virus on.

That means the blood they donate will not test positive but it will still infect people who get that blood.

31 posted on 06/14/2016 7:56:35 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: ilovesarah2012

If more people get aids it will no longer be an overwhelmingly gay disease.


32 posted on 06/14/2016 7:58:01 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: BlackAdderess
OK, remind me, who is the anti-science party?!

That's a great point.
The Left is screaming that science and statistics of risk based on decades of data are "homophobic!", therefore in the interests of non-bigotry, the controls and protocols surrounding blood and plasma supply should roughly conform to immigration/rapefugee policies throughout the West, i.e., no meaningful control/accountability based on the facts, or else "isms" n stuff.

33 posted on 06/14/2016 8:01:15 PM PDT by BloodScarletMinnesota
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To: GraceG

I grew up in a small town where a classmate lost their mother due to an HIV tainted blood infusion in the mid 80s.


If they do lift the ban, and this starts happening again, rest assured the MSM will suppress all news about the victims.


34 posted on 06/14/2016 8:01:58 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Faith Presses On

Per the CDC, one in five homosexual adult males is HIV positive. Nearly half of that group are unaware of their condition. Homosexual males comprise approximately one percent of the U.S. population. Fifty thousand new cases of HIV are diagnosed each year, and the numbers are increasing. Homosexual males account for 80% of the new cases.

320M x 0.01 x 0.2 x 0.5 = 320,000 homosexual adult males in the U.S. who are unaware they are HIV positive.

If only one percent of that total donate blood, that’s 3,200 pints of infected product in the system.

Who the h*** would wish that risk...except of course the homosexuals and Leftists who want more hetero cases of HIV.


35 posted on 06/14/2016 8:02:14 PM PDT by nickedknack
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To: ilovesarah2012

“If we have aids, you should have aids!”


36 posted on 06/14/2016 8:04:33 PM PDT by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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To: palmer

Yes. From CNN:

“While it is possible to detect HIV in a unit of blood nine to 11 days after infection, the NIH says that once a person is infected with HIV, it generally takes about three months for the body to produce enough antibodies to be detected by an HIV antibody test. For some people, it can take up to six months.”

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/13/health/orlando-shooting-gay-men-donate-blood/

I’ve read quite a few of these articles now, and they all say different things and make different claims about just this point, the effectiveness of the testing done on donated blood, even though they are all sure that the FDA ban is needless.

And none of them cover issues like the fact that the blood donation process doesn’t need a very high risk pool of donors coming in, and tying up their resources as well as undoubtedly increasing the number of infections of HIV (and hepatitis) occurring through blood donations.

One news report, for instance, points to Italy as a proposed model, but a journal article on Italy’s process that I came across says that while they changed their screening from an outright ban of “MSM” “per se,” they are still effectively barred due to the behavior requirements.


37 posted on 06/14/2016 8:05:14 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

[[Democrats and the media push for lifting the blood donation ban on gay men ]]

They should all be forced to get a blood transfusion with blood collected from homosexuals prior to voting


38 posted on 06/14/2016 8:05:46 PM PDT by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Homosexuality was not removed from the American Psychological Association's DSM because of medical/scientific reasons, but because of community agitation by militant homosexuals.

Absolutely.

39 posted on 06/14/2016 8:07:56 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Apparently, most people are fine with what Obama is doing, while he ignores our problems.)
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To: Rurudyne
If more people get aids it will no longer be an overwhelmingly gay disease.

I remember way back to the mid 80s that the media was hyping the 'all you straights are gonna get AIDS too' because they desperately wanted it to be true, at least throughout the West.
Their prediction largely proved true for impoverished areas of the globe, however.

40 posted on 06/14/2016 8:11:37 PM PDT by BloodScarletMinnesota
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