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The fraudulent narrative pushed by the media, the politicians and Mateen's father is falling apart.

Mateen was part of ISIS. His father was part of Taliban.

A married man with a 3 yea old son, Mateen regularly drove 85 miles to be at this gay club. He also was a regular on gay dating sites. He also was a jihadist.

The article has a lot of good information not reported in the MSM.

1 posted on 06/14/2016 6:18:30 AM PDT by detective
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I am going to take omar’s word for it. He said he did it for islam.


2 posted on 06/14/2016 6:20:01 AM PDT by boycott (--s)
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Two forms of mental illness - Islam and gay - in one sick and conflicted person. Not that this excuses the Islamic terror. It is what it is. They’re all mental cases of one kind or another.


3 posted on 06/14/2016 6:20:18 AM PDT by Genoa
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He would not be the first in-the-closet guy leading a double life.


4 posted on 06/14/2016 6:20:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Does anybody think he might have been trying to gain their trust by showing up there, so that when he decided to pull the trigger, he’d be allowed inside and they wouldn’t object to his coming in?


5 posted on 06/14/2016 6:23:17 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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when a gay man was killed in Benghazi all they could say was "what difference does it make" as to why we were attacked.


6 posted on 06/14/2016 6:23:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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The media can spin it all they want but he wouldn’t have done it if not for islam.


7 posted on 06/14/2016 6:24:11 AM PDT by boycott (--s)
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Well, this gets the left out of their dilemma over which “protected class”, muslime or homosexual, they will defend in this case. As a gay jihadi, Mateen can get DOUBLE “protected class” status! Sweet.


8 posted on 06/14/2016 6:24:22 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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Well, the focus goes to the murderer’s sexuality instead of where it belongs.

Barack Hussein Obama.


9 posted on 06/14/2016 6:27:29 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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The people who terrorize and murder innocent people are a bit crazy from the start. ISIS is a federation of such deranged people who are attracted to this death and torture cult. They use a perversion of Islamic theology to mold their conscience and try to believe that they will be “rewarded” in some sort of afterlife for their killing. ISIS and its followers are sick, irrational, dangerous people who like other death cults in history must be brutally and mercilessly eliminated. An effective response begins with shedding politically correct blinders. Sorry Obama but it is a perversion of Islamic theology, begun by the Wahhabi that is at the root of this barbaric terrorism performed by crazies. Those crazies include deranged homosexuals, immigrants and home grown lowlifes. There ought not be protection on the basis of gender, race, sexual identification, religion or politics. Its troubling that the FBI told the wife of the Orlando killer not to reveal to the media that he was a homosexual. Time to take off the politically correct blinders and act effectively.


12 posted on 06/14/2016 6:33:55 AM PDT by allendale
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OK, now another possible connection I saw yesterday. It was in a Twitter post from KGNC radio in Amarillo TX.

@KGNCAM @oreillyfactor Orlando shooter’s FB page. In the middle as a friend, the killer of Christina Grimmie https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck30A6XUoAAMlGd.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck30A6eUkAA9WDV.jpg

I requested their source and have yet to get a reply.

This flies in the face of what police have said about Grimmie’s murder the day before.

So, If this is about a gay connection, some here on FR previously made the comment that they suspected the Grimmie’s murderer was possibly gay. (appearance)

The coincidence between the two events make you want to question what we’ve been told about them. No connection?


14 posted on 06/14/2016 6:35:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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All indications at this point are “closet case who snapped”.


17 posted on 06/14/2016 6:44:02 AM PDT by Cyberman
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Total Narrative Reversal? – Pulse Nightclub Massacre Was Not an LGBT Motivated Attack

Probably just a reaction to some offensive YouTube video somewhere.

18 posted on 06/14/2016 6:44:49 AM PDT by skimbell
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As he was butchering these people he was yelling “Alau Akbar” not “death to gays”. That tells you all you need to know.


19 posted on 06/14/2016 6:45:09 AM PDT by circlecity
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BUT his nice Father said this was the motivation...did he lie?


21 posted on 06/14/2016 6:46:15 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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This article has some information, but we still don’t know anything with the second and current wife.

Is the relationship anything close to the San Bernardino dead terrorists couple? Didn’t they have a young child too?


22 posted on 06/14/2016 6:46:44 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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Actually, I’ve been wondering if the father’s statement about his son being upset seeing two men kissing might ultimately be right. If he was in a relationship with one of them.

Are there any gay lovers left to tell the tale? If that was his story there should be.


25 posted on 06/14/2016 6:49:35 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen... -Emerson)
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He was a gay jihadi who knew the layout of this club, and that is the reason why he murdered people there. If you want to kill a large number of people, you are not going to do it in an unfamiliar place.


27 posted on 06/14/2016 6:52:39 AM PDT by kaila
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The Orlando Sentinel article linked said he was scouting Disney in Orlando, probably to do an attack.


29 posted on 06/14/2016 6:54:42 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen... -Emerson)
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Have any Pulse regulars come forward yet to say “OMG, I think I did that guy!”?


30 posted on 06/14/2016 6:54:55 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ('''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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It was an attack on Americans and that's all that matters to me.


34 posted on 06/14/2016 7:15:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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