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Is The Fix Already In? How Obama Takes Control Of The Party For The Long Term
Vanity | 6/3/2016 | Lee Roggenburg

Posted on 06/03/2016 6:49:50 AM PDT by LRoggy

Edward Klein has made a living the last few years writing about the long simmering feud between the Clinton cabal and the Obama loyalists and how they are the two main factions vying for long term control of the Democrat Party, with the undertone in his books being the personality clashes among them.

Whether the still angered Big Dog feeling he was slimed as a racist in 2008 or other instances highlighted in the books, it’s clear that the Obama/Clinton détente is solely for current political considerations and that the undertones have never gone away.

In a few days California might well ignite to a higher level (think Defcon rankings as a similarity) the internal competitiveness if a certain result ensues. An easy Hillary win pretty much seals the deal and much of the détente continues in the long term offset position until the general election.

But if ‘The Bern’ pulls the upset, and particularly if the margin is at least 3 points, the dynamic of the détente starts to change.

What no member of the national media wants to touch is that Obama holds ALL the cards here. He is much younger and will be around a long time and will be able to almost act as a shadow government due to the popularity the MSM has for him, regardless of whether it is a Democrat or Republican administration. He also has TWO shots at destroying the détente if he chooses to do so. Before the convention AND after the general election if Hillary! loses to Trump.

It’s really a simple calculation and it explains much of what the email/server scandal has done to the Clinton camp. Lost in much of the back and forth about the scandal is the simple fact that the server was set up to hide communications from her boss. The media can’t go there because it can’t be spun to Hillary’s favor. In fact, the attempt by them to keep the focus on ‘classification’ is the best hand they have to play, since the server itself has no slick answer.

But that doesn’t mean the Obama camp has not forgotten. And certainly has not forgiven.

So back to California.

If Bernie wins easily the drumbeat for a Biden rescue mission starts. Not that it wouldn’t be painful for the party. Bernie’s supporters are not going to lay down and let Biden glide in, but if it comes down to a Biden/Warren ticket then most of them can hold their nose and at least feel they are at least cementing their political gains if they win.

Watch for the first domino . . . DWS out as head of the Party. Should she fall then the super delegates can start to shift. Not necessarily to Bernie, but to an open position. A couple of ballots that don’t come to a nominee. Then Biden to the rescue.

Even a Trump win against a Biden-led ticket can be spun by the Obama side as being Hillary’s fault. No long term loss for them there. Go on to 2020 and consolidate the behind the scenes power by supporting whoever they want to work with.

Does anyone doubt that Barack Obama would sacrifice one election cycle to keep power behind the scenes? I certainly wouldn’t.

And then you have the ultimate get even. Obama gives the Justice Department the ‘wink and a nod’ to indict Hillary for the classification issue and maybe even a RICO charge on the Clinton Foundation. Between the November election and the New Year.

Kill two birds with one stone. Get rid of the Clinton legacy in the party. Remember, the whole 1992 campaign was to take control of the party from its furthest left instincts and the far left has never forgotten that. Destroy the Foundation and you completely take away the power base of the Clintons.

Game, set, match.

Barack Obama keeps control of the Democrat Party for a long time to come. And the only way that doesn’t happen is if Hillary Clinton is the next president.

But why would she feel any confidence at all knowing this Damoclean Sword hangs over her?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; FReeper Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; election; obama
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Just have a feeling that this is kind of baked in the cake already
1 posted on 06/03/2016 6:49:50 AM PDT by LRoggy
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To: LRoggy

I’d like to see both the Clintons and the odumbo’s be put in prison for treason or sent to some tiny deserted island, gone from history here in the U.S. We would all be better of without any of them, past, present or future.


2 posted on 06/03/2016 6:54:04 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: LRoggy

Nah. He’s more concerned about Trump dismantling his “legacy”. Such as it is.


3 posted on 06/03/2016 6:55:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: LRoggy

The fix is in but the joke is on OBuggery, Hillary and the rest of the NWO globalists as they have been outflanked.


4 posted on 06/03/2016 6:56:08 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: LRoggy

Tthe long simmering feud between the Clinton Crime Family and the shadowy cabal of leftists for whom Obama is a spokesperson.

Fixed it.


5 posted on 06/03/2016 6:57:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: LRoggy
If Trump is successful and wins, it is time to expose the Communists who run the ComDem Party.

That cabal is the most devastating thing I've seen in my life.

6 posted on 06/03/2016 6:57:51 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: BenLurkin

You beat me by about 40 seconds on the gist of your post.


7 posted on 06/03/2016 6:59:46 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I bet he believes that with his (Obama's) help Biden can beat Trump.

The ultimate self delusion will send them down in flames.

8 posted on 06/03/2016 7:03:47 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Gold and silver are real money, everything else is a derivative)
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To: LRoggy
...Obama holds ALL the cards here. He is much younger and will be around a long time and will be able to almost act as a shadow government due to the popularity the MSM has for him, regardless of whether it is a Democrat or Republican administration.

Al Gore was going to head a "shadow government", too. The age / longevity statement is also meaningless speculation - accidents happen.

9 posted on 06/03/2016 7:04:39 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: LRoggy

We all know already that there is a reason Hillary has not been indicted a long time ago. Obama has control of the Justice Dept. Look at Lois Lerner. She also walked. Why is that?
I’m thinking Obama had to know what Hillary was up to in funneling bribes to the Clinton Foundation. He probably got his cut, otherwise why allow it?
So, he would have to have a way of shielding his own culpability in order to out her. Plus I’m sure she already had blackmail material piled up on him before he ever gained office. Obama would have to find a way to neutralize that threat before indicting her.


10 posted on 06/03/2016 7:06:45 AM PDT by tinamina
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To: Charles Martel

I really meant Obama running one with a Clinton presidency


11 posted on 06/03/2016 7:06:56 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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Why do Google and Facebook have such ready and frequent access to the Obama WH?
12 posted on 06/03/2016 7:09:34 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
He's (Obama) more concerned about Trump dismantling his "legacy".

Why? The legacy Trump's going to destroy is hillary's. I can't imagine why Obama would want hillary to be the next President. If that were to happen, the Clintons would get to put the blame for everything on Obama.

It would be better for the dems to be okay with a Trump presidency while they rebuild. When hillary loses, there will be NO influence left for the Clintons. Just like with the Bushes. Both dynasties will have been overthrown.

13 posted on 06/03/2016 7:10:28 AM PDT by grania
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To: LRoggy

I came up with a different take, that I’ve previously posted, on the upcoming election that may be an explanation for whats going on. It seems on the face of it to be quite outrageous but really, what can you put past this _resident and the complicit lame stream media, that would provide support.

I wrote, “A new theory that I have not heard is that _resident Obama will wait until its to late to allow substitute nominees before having Hil’liar’y indicted.
He will then suspend the elections until such time as the process for a subsequent election can be created, say about oh, 4 years or so.

The _resident, being very _residential will pardon everyone related to the incidents for the good of the country and let all his friends (pronounced political lackey’s) skate free and clear.

YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST - AND - You can choose for yourselves whether or not to put on your tin foil hats.”

ps. Don’t forget the old adage, ‘once a tyrant always a tyrant.” So that might be only the beginning.


14 posted on 06/03/2016 7:10:57 AM PDT by Kalam (<: The answer is 42 :>)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Nah. He’s more concerned about Trump dismantling his “legacy”. Such as it is.

Maybe not. Trump rolling back Leftist gains will inflame the Left, and strengthen Obama's hold over the Dems, as they try for a 2018 takeover of Congress to block Trump.

15 posted on 06/03/2016 7:17:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: tinamina

Obama has control of the Justice Dept. Look at Lois Lerner. She also walked. Why is that?

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Listen to this interview with Charles Ortel. The Clinton Foundation should have lost their tax-exempt atatus a long time ago - it’s the worst thing that can happen to the CF (he explains why). Who was in charge of that IRS unit ... the one that SHOULD have held the CF’s feet to the fire (filings, audits, etc.)? It was the unit Lois Lerner was in charge of - instead, she was going after Conservative groups & making their lives hell. I highly recommend you listen to this - major, major stuff the Clintons & the CF are getting away with.

Clinton Foundation Largest Charity Fraud Ever Attempted: Charlie Ortel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRgAaQU7Zyk

Related FR thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3435924/posts


16 posted on 06/03/2016 7:18:25 AM PDT by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: LRoggy
Make no mistake about it, Valarie Jarrett and Michelle Obama run the White House. Barack is largely a lazy ass who's more interested in watching ESPN.

That said, the two absolutely hate the Clintons. Michelle cannot wait to get the hell out of the White House while Valarie will be dragged out kicking and screaming. Barack will be happy to sit on the sidelines raking in cash for speaking fees and will be a loud mouth in the press for the next 4-8 years.

It stands to reason that Clinton's dilemma really is up in the air. Obama may choose to let the Justice department loose. Lynch will follow orders no matter what. If that happens she AND Bill are screwed. We're talking a massive RICO case here. That would seal the Clinton's fate and they will fade off into obscurity (and prison and bankruptcy eventually).

If Sanders wins CA, even if he comes close to winning, the convention is going to be an absolute mess. I doubt it will rival 1968 but it could come very close. If Clinton can't completely seal the deal on the first vote it's going to be a complete and utter free for all.

Keep in mind that Obama (Jarrett) has preferred a Biden/Warren ticket all along.

17 posted on 06/03/2016 7:19:42 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: Texas Fossil
If Trump is successful and wins, it is time to expose the Communists who run the ComDem Party.

Is that the same as the ConDem Party?

18 posted on 06/03/2016 7:19:50 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops!)
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To: Kalam

And how is he going to get 50 individual states to call off their elections?


19 posted on 06/03/2016 7:26:01 AM PDT by Despot of the Delta (It's time for Trump to become Vlad the Impaler. I want Progressive/Globalist/Establishment heads)
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To: LRoggy

I don’t think you have it quite right.

It’s not that Hillary had a crappy unsecured server to hide stuff from Obama.

It’s that Hillary had a crappy unsecured server to hide stuff from US.

And Obama and Valjar went along with it because it gave them an ace ‘hole card’ they could play on Hillary when they needed to.


20 posted on 06/03/2016 7:31:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Chuck Norris finally met his match in Donald Trump.)
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