[Ransomed]

I think we are simply much farther along the cultural downslope than anyone on our side wants to acknowledge.

All this garbage is happening now and not 1980 for a reason.

Freegard

[Jim Noble]

“All this garbage is happening now and not 1980 for a reason.”

While I agree with your general point, this PARTICULAR garbage happened 40 years ago and 60 years ago.

I don’t know that it happened before WW II, but I bet it’s as old as the hills.