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Pension Debt Exceeds 40k Per Household
American Interest ^ | May 12, 2016 | Staff

Posted on 05/13/2016 6:54:57 AM PDT by C19fan

According to a first-of-its kind pension-tracking website created by a team at Stanford’s Institute for Economic and Policy Research, America’s unfunded pension liabilities—the difference between the value of state pension funds and the amount owed to public sector workers—totals over $4.8 trillion, or $41,219 per household. The Stanford team arrived at number assuming a three percent rate of return—far lower than the 7.5 percent “actuarial” rate many pension funds rely on, but rarely meet. (Even if the actuarial basis were accurate, state pension funds would still owe a combined $1.04 trillion, or $8,872 per household).

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: pensions; publicpensions
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With public pensions so underfunded and many households having zero or minimal savings for retirement there is going to be economic warfare. People are going to eye the trillions in wealth and demand bail outs and higher taxes whether on wealth or income.
1 posted on 05/13/2016 6:54:57 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Google “Theresa Ghilarducci”. THAT’S what they are gonna do.


2 posted on 05/13/2016 6:56:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

Gov workers are the greediest bastards on the planet. Most people don’t have a pension.

All gov pensions should be rolled into the “social security trust fund”.

It’s NOT their money.


3 posted on 05/13/2016 6:58:29 AM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

My net worth could pay off 30 of them. Mr. President: Please raise my taxes.


4 posted on 05/13/2016 6:59:22 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Of course, there’s nothing government can’t screw up given a few scares to convince people that they should help you.

You can bet they’ll not stop at pension funds for public sector workers either.

Indeed, IIRC, Obama and company have already taken steps so that the federal will be the nation’s new investment planner.

As for these unfounded pension funds: I guess we’re finally seeing the coming price for Big Government and all the people it will employ and the idea of a secure retirement for everyone.

Eventual ruin and poverty follow after the so-called “progressive”.


5 posted on 05/13/2016 7:05:16 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Of course, there’s nothing government can’t screw up given a few scares to convince people that they should help you.

You can bet they’ll not stop at pension funds for public sector workers either.

Indeed, IIRC, Obama and company have already taken steps so that the federal will be the nation’s new investment planner.

As for these unfounded pension funds: I guess we’re finally seeing the coming price for Big Government and all the people it will employ and the idea of a secure retirement for everyone.

Eventual ruin and poverty follow after the so-called “progressive”.


6 posted on 05/13/2016 7:05:18 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

How did that double post?


7 posted on 05/13/2016 7:06:17 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

A mandatory 5% of my salary isn’t ever going to .gov for their guaranteed rate of return.

No wonder she was threatened.


8 posted on 05/13/2016 7:07:53 AM PDT by zek157
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To: C19fan
public sector workers

Proof of this 'work' is required.

9 posted on 05/13/2016 7:08:51 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends.)
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Whoop-de-doo. $40K per household is barely the tip of the tip of the iceberg.

The total unfunded U.S. government liabilities total over $853K per citizen.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

10 posted on 05/13/2016 7:10:29 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ohhh, so She’s the NWO creep promoting plans to seize our savings for the good of the many.
She wants to kill your 401(k) - USA Today

www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/03/16/ozy-teresa-gh... Proxy Highlight

Mar 16, 2015 ... Being an economist isn’t often a path to fame, but Teresa Ghilarducci found her 15 minutes — and so much more — about seven years ago, ...
Teresa Ghilarducci: “How To Retire With Enough Money” - The ...

www.thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2016-01-07/teresa-ghil... Proxy Highlight

Jan 7, 2016 ... Economist Teresa Ghilarducci says that IRAs, 401(k)s and Social Security won’t be enough for many middle-class retirees. She has long ...
The Retirement Expert Who Got Death Threats for Her Ideas ...

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-05/the-retire... Proxy Highlight

Aug 5, 2015 ... The New School’s Teresa Ghilarducci on mandated savings, risk aversion, and avoiding fees.


11 posted on 05/13/2016 7:10:45 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: relictele

“public sector workers”

“Proof of this ‘work’ is required. “

If you look at the state of our country, it would not be out of bounds at all to cancel ALL gov pensions.


12 posted on 05/13/2016 7:14:09 AM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Yup, she’s the one.

Just like Single Payer, you know it WILL happen, once the Dems can produce the right moment of crisis and panic.


13 posted on 05/13/2016 7:14:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

New Jersey has some of the worst public pension problems in the US

I say, liquidate the pension and give the money to the public workers in individual 401Ks type plans. They control their own money and the state contributes to the plan yearly, and is budgeted yearly as well. So no more “kicking the can down the road” which the state of NJ has been doing for decades.

Also this will eliminate the corruption aspect as well, no more police chiefs or school administrators retiring with 120K a year pensions for life.


14 posted on 05/13/2016 7:15:51 AM PDT by arl295
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Yep. Little or no sympathy from me. They used their political clout and unions to raise pensions to unsustainable levels. Now that the worm has turned, they should be needs tested to see just how much of that pension they really need.

They are always yapping about how the "rich" can afford to pay more taxes. Well, they are pension rich and can afford to take less pensions.

15 posted on 05/13/2016 7:16:28 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: C19fan

I vote that when they decide to start seizing money, they seize all of the Universities endowments. The top 20 is worth over $250 billion.

They should also eliminate all federal financial aid at the same time and force these schools to live within their means instead of turning students into indentured servants for the rest of their lives.


16 posted on 05/13/2016 7:23:59 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: C19fan

A friend here in NY is a retired school principal. His yearly pension from the State is $150K.


17 posted on 05/13/2016 7:24:31 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Rurudyne

“How did that double post?”

Means your traffic is going thru the NSA. Due to their data capture architecture network conditions can sometimes create ghost packets hitting a destination. Probably due to a temporary buffer overflow on a device.


18 posted on 05/13/2016 7:24:51 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Vigilanteman

I say eliminate the pensions, liquidate them and put the money in each public workers newly formed 401K account

The government can contribute and so can the employee as well or the government can do a matching funds kind of deal.

This way it is all budgeted and the money is in the control of the retiree, not corrupt government insiders using the funds as their personal piggy banks


19 posted on 05/13/2016 7:25:37 AM PDT by arl295
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To: C19fan

If they think they are going to be able to raise taxes to fund the extravagant pensions of our public masters they are delusional. There is no obligation on the Americwn public to pay off the bribes politicians paid the unions in the form of extremely generous pay and retirement. I suggest that the soon to be disposed, nouveau riche, public employee retirees find and hang the politicians that created this fiasco.

Schadenfreude, a nice feeling in these dark days.


20 posted on 05/13/2016 7:26:50 AM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016)
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