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If anything, Trump has a chance to win more states than another R nominee would.

But he needs serious voter turnout to vote for him.

Any R or "conservative" not supporting and voting for Trump is effectively voting for Hillary and the Democrat party.

1 posted on 05/08/2016 5:28:25 PM PDT by Innovative
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And with all the illegals coming in the demographics will continue to change in the dimoKKKRATS favor. This may well be out last chance to do something about it.


2 posted on 05/08/2016 5:33:06 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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funny thing- demographics played no part in 2010 and 2014 just 2008 and 2012 when they gave us crap candidates...


3 posted on 05/08/2016 5:35:48 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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Been here saying this forever....demographics are destiny. Trump needs to park himself in PA, Michigan & Virginia this cycle. Also go after Nevada & Iowa & Nevada as a backup if PA falls through.


4 posted on 05/08/2016 5:36:04 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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The American Left has imported millions of new voters.

And conservatives sat on asses and let them.

Thank God we have the moral high ground. With that and some good feelings, we got jack in the future. :)


7 posted on 05/08/2016 5:38:17 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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Re-running the last election is a sure way to lose.


8 posted on 05/08/2016 5:39:41 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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“What that means in practical terms is that if Clinton wins the 19 states that every Democratic nominee dating to her husband has won and she wins Florida (29 electoral votes), she wins the White House. It’s that simple.”

Yup. And there’s no way Cruz or Kasich or any other republican was going to beat Hillary in FL.

Trump got more votes than her in the primaries and it’s his second home.

“If anything, Trump has a chance to win more states than another R nominee would. “

Exactly. Trump is the only one who can take some of those 19 states from Hillary.


9 posted on 05/08/2016 5:40:29 PM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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Well I was told by the so-called conservatives—15 years ago- how great “robust” immigration was for the cause.

I was told that Mexican illegal immigrants are pro-life and are a natural fit for the Republican party. I was also told that they would never be Democrats because Blacks are overwhelmingly Democrat and the two interest groups don’t get along.

Oh well. Thanks Medved, Bush et al!


11 posted on 05/08/2016 5:42:10 PM PDT by Fast Ed97
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Counter: https://youtu.be/4EnWM-xre5k


12 posted on 05/08/2016 5:44:33 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullete)
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Let’s face it, whereas many white votes are split, these non white voters are racist and vote as a racial group. It’s not the GOP’S fault it’s the wall of racism they are facing. The GOP tried for many years to ignore trace and speak to people as Americans. It’s not conservatives who have a religious or racial test, it’s the left. That’s the harsh reality.


13 posted on 05/08/2016 5:48:44 PM PDT by Williams (Dear God please save us from the democrats. And the republicans.)
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You can be sure that Demonicrat corruption and fraud will be infecting every precinct ballot machine or box they can get hold of.


15 posted on 05/08/2016 5:52:08 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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Facts:

1) Except in the very odd/exceptional election year of 1964, the Dems haven’t cracked 50% of the whites in a Presidential election since 1932.

2) Once the ‘64 election was over, the Dems understood that they would never win another Presidential election again unless the Republicans REALLY screwed up...or unless they changed the electorate in a dramatic way.

3) The Dems, courtesy of Bobby Kennedy who wrote the law, and Teddy Kennedy who pushed it in the Senate, passed the 1965 Immigration Act. That law dramatically reduced immigration from our then-traditional large sources of immigrants - England, Ireland, Holland, Germany, etc. - and replaced them with vast numbers of Turd Worlders...whom everyone knows vote around 80% for Dems, and will continue to do so for the rest of their lives, as new immigrants have traditionally done.

4) As a result of the ‘65 Act, and due to the Dem’s outright lying in ‘86 regarding an effective (or any) fence, there are now probably 30 - 40 million illegals in this nation. Note that the (probably low-ball) figure in 2005 was 11 million...we have 2-3 million come in every year, so simple math says that the number is actually somewhere between 31 and 41 million). If any substantial portion of these people ever become citizens, then the Dems will have accomplished a complete shift of the electorate, and will be virtually invincible on the national level. Every state will become like California, both politically and economically - which is to say, overwhelming Dem and broke. But at least if you don’t like California now, you can leave for a better place without much trouble - where are you going to go if EVERY state is like that?

5) Every Republican, and every Conservative voter MUST UNDERSTAND that if such a state of affairs comes to be, NO OTHER ISSUE WILL MATTER AT ALL, because we will ALWAYS AND FOREVER lose on those issues. Immigration is THE issue of this election, and this election is as critical as the 1860 election was - and for the same reason, because it will determine whether this nation continues on as it has existed in the past, or becomes a new and unrecognizable entity that simply occupies the same geographic territory.

Please wake up, and help others to do so by sending them this post (or recommending “Adios America” to them). It really is THAT important.


17 posted on 05/08/2016 5:54:40 PM PDT by Ultima
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I think Hispanics voted 40% for GWB at one point didn’t they?

What happened to that? Or did the Hispanic electorate change too?


18 posted on 05/08/2016 5:57:20 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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Any R or "conservative" not supporting and voting for Trump is effectively voting for Hillary and the Democrat party.

Indeed.


19 posted on 05/08/2016 6:03:17 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Still a Cruz Fan but voting for Trump)
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It is not about Demographics. It is about values. It is about the idea of America, which the Democrat party loathes. It is about freedom, which the Democrat party fears, because to them it is about power, and keeping control, through the bureaucracy, via a dependency. The Education system tells our kids to love big brother. We have to counter that every day. So far I have had moderate success, my biggest challenge is the Global Warming nonsense, which my son’s science teacher preaches is all man made, and which I tell him is cyclical in the 4.5 billion year history of Earth. The Democrats are the enemy (most of them anyway) and it s their philosophy, unchallenged, because of the likes of Ryan, Romney,and all of these #nevertrumps, and RINOs, who by their silence go along, and that is the real problem, because they are about power too. What is needed is a bringing of the ‘new’ Americans into the real America, Not one of by and for the Bureaucrats. But of by and for the People, and eliminate bureaucrat jobs, make them earn an honest wage in private industry...


21 posted on 05/08/2016 6:06:09 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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This thinking presumes that blacks and legal immigrants are going to love higher crime and taxes and lower wages. And that the truth of the Gospel won’t reach them.

Demographic populations change socially, and the overreach of Team Hussein is not being calculated here.

Neither is Hitlery’s MASSIVE unpopularity.


23 posted on 05/08/2016 6:21:30 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper (Just say no to HRC)
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The Democrats have constantly been pushing the idea that Identity politics mean everything. Ideas mean nothing.

Who you are borne determines how you will vote.

It is bullsh*t. Ideas do matter.

They push this idea over and over and over. It is why they keep importing new voters. It can be overcome, but it is meant to convince themselves and us that it cannot be overcome.


28 posted on 05/08/2016 6:30:30 PM PDT by marktwain
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I talked to a lib I knew for a long time tonight, he said he is voting for Trump. I was like WHAT? *Double take* What?? He said something that explains the success of Trump a lot: “He says what we think but never get a chance to say because we are not politicians”...He was talking about the corruption in Washington, but there you go...He’s right, Trump is connecting on both sides of the fence, he speaks the voice of the people. Think about it, the Clinton criminal cabal, no politician ever talks about that but here was Trump yesterday talking about Bill being a serial sex offender and Hitlery acting as his enabler. I mean holy cow! How many times have we talked about that yet never heard it from the likes of the Bush Monarchy, or McCain or Romney? Libs KNOW the government is corrupt. We may disagree on a lot of things but they know this government is made up of punks and to hear Trump expose it is getting them on his side. He is going to utterly obliterate Hitlery!


29 posted on 05/08/2016 6:43:37 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Can we please kill the guy already who invented the saying "My bad"?)
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You're absolutely right.

I believe Obama won Pa with just two loaded districts....Philly being one of them.

31 posted on 05/08/2016 6:45:59 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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“Trump isn’t to blame for any of that. But his remarkably high disapproval numbers among Hispanics and his hard-line stance on illegal immigration — we are going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it! — could make what is already a huge demographic or electoral-map problem for Republicans even worse.”

If Trump has to be pro-amnesty to win, then there’s no point voting for a democrat-lite. With amnesty by either party, the country is ruined.


32 posted on 05/08/2016 6:47:24 PM PDT by CottonBall
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Trump will win NY, NJ, PA, CT , MI, OH & FL, with a good shot at CA.
Not sure what ya’ll are smokin’,
but poner el crackpipe abajo!

45+ states my friends ... 45+ states.
It’s gonna be glorious!


40 posted on 05/08/2016 7:17:33 PM PDT by Macoozie ("Estoy votando por Ted 2016!" bumper stickers available)
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