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1 posted on 04/26/2016 10:52:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Yeah, winning in a State by 20 Points and the Party Hacks assigning the Delegates to vote for your opponent on the second ballot isn’t lowlife stealing tactics are all.


2 posted on 04/26/2016 10:55:09 AM PDT by heights
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Daren Jonescu of the American Thinker, writes on the day of the New York primary:

Here's how I performed the calculations, so you may double-check my math for yourself. Following the primary map at Politico, I converted the exact percentage of each state's popular vote for Donald Trump and Ted Cruz into the precise number of that state's total delegates that each man would receive on a strictly proportional system, rounding upward for any decimal at or above .5, and downward for any decimal below .5.

Here is what I found.

After thirty-four primaries, counting all the state votes completed as of April 16, including D.C. but excluding Colorado and the territories, we reach the following delegate totals: Trump 554, Cruz 490.

Apparently the system is rigged after all! I could have sworn Trump was miles ahead, the race all but over, and the disenfranchised masses lighting their torches for the march on Cleveland, where Trump's rightful nomination was about to be stolen. As it turns out, on the "transparent and simple" proportional model suggested by one of American Thinker's most thoughtful Trump advocates, Trump would be less than halfway to the delegate majority, with Cruz right on his heels. The race, had this model actually been used, would have a completely different dynamic at this point. It would be a neck and neck contest between two men neither of whom had any realistic path to a first ballot majority.

Far from looking like a nominee about to have his prize stolen from him, Trump would look even more like what he already seems to be: a novelty candidate whose early plurality is fading as a huge field has pared itself down to three; whose lack of knowledge, coherence, consistency, and campaign management are becoming increasingly glaring liabilities; and whose survival in this race depends entirely on the continued presence of an already-eliminated establishment candidate (Kasich) who evidently remains in the running for no other reason than to divide the anti-Trump majority.

3 posted on 04/26/2016 10:55:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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What's wrong with just following the rules as they are written?


5 posted on 04/26/2016 10:56:31 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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For those of you that were demanding that Colorado throw away it caucus system, understand what you are supporting. The democrats in the state legislature are now offering a bill to change the party controlled caucus system to a state controlled primary system.

Understand that the legislature will FORCE the GOP party to OPEN the vote for the nominee to ANYONE who wishes to “temporarily” change their registrations. The independents will now get to decide who the party nominee is going to be from Colorado.

This is what we had before and what we voted OUT.


6 posted on 04/26/2016 10:57:09 AM PDT by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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Some states (ex. Colorado) didn’t allow voters to vote. The state just assigned delegates. Other states (ex. PA) let voters vote then essentially throw the votes away and assign delegates.

Is the word “rigged” not quite accurate? Maybe. But clearly the voters are not being allowed to participate in some areas.


8 posted on 04/26/2016 10:58:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Harvey Dent -- can he be trusted?)
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Hope you’ve got your flame suit ready.


9 posted on 04/26/2016 10:59:47 AM PDT by TheRobb7 ("Patriots don't negotiate the terms of their enslavement"--JimRob)
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I never thought I would see the day when going to the ballot box and expressing our will on issues would be trashed by someone seeking my support.

None the less, here we are. Delegates are the pure. Voters are the unpure.

Let’s refresh our memory a bit here.

For literally most of my 65 years, I have been told that voting was my sacred right. I must participate in the system. In general elections I had to take part, “...because this was the most important election in my lifetime. ‘Our candidate’ for the Oval Office, had to win!”

Now, I’m told that selecting a nominee in my local state is corrupted by my vote. Delegates are the rage. This is a Republic don’t you know...

“After all, we have an electoral college, you idiot!”

Folks, selecting a nominee in one state, is not at all like selecting a president in fifty different states of varying sizes. The electoral college was instituted to help smaller states feel like they had a voice. That concern is not present in states.

We the public demand to have a say in the process. We do, because after decades, we have a majority in the Senate and the House, and those people have let Obama have every single thing he wanted. EVERYTHING!

After watching these idiots for the last eight years, particularly after we took over, it’s clear a traitor can serve in the oval office and bring Muslim Brotherhood terrorists into that building to advise him.

Our checks and balances system is DOA. It barely had a pulse when Bush left, and now it’s been flatlining for eight years.

Don’t come to me with your horse ‘stuff’ about Republics vs Democracies. I’m not falling for it. I want a say in what is taking place, and our nation on the f——— rocks is the reason why.

If you can’t grasp this, you certainly don’t belong here.


13 posted on 04/26/2016 11:07:08 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ted Cruz. It's what plants need...)
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It’s one of the last vestiges of state independence and sovereignty, and it’s not liberals who want to take it down.


20 posted on 04/26/2016 11:09:10 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Facts are facts, but PERCEPTION is reality.

It makes no difference, if it gets people to the voting booth, its done its job.

Go Trump.


28 posted on 04/26/2016 11:15:38 AM PDT by Rustybucket
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The primary system has little to do with the constitutionally enumerated procedure for electing a president.
”Article II, Section 1, Clause 2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

12th Amendment: The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; ..."

So how can the primary system not be rigged?

33 posted on 04/26/2016 11:22:33 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Yes it is.

Most times, the later primaries are inconsequential. This year, they are not.

The system is rigged to support the system (and the professional politicians who designed it). The system is designed to keep insurgency candidates from succeeding.

Because the later primaries have consequence this year, the underlying system itself is being exposed to many who never have peered into that dark space. And many of these new viewers do not care for what they see.


38 posted on 04/26/2016 11:30:18 AM PDT by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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The system isn’t “Rigged” — the establishment is just trying to protect us from candidates they don’t like.


43 posted on 04/26/2016 11:42:20 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
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As an analogy I’m reminded of a case a couple of years back in Salt Lake City where a cop shot and killed some teenager who was sitting in his car doing nothing. There was some brouhaha but the Department concluded that the cop had done no wrong because he was “following Department procedure”. We see these sorts of excuses a lot. The establishment makes up some rules themselves and then acts as if the rules are mandated by God or State Law or some other such nonsense. It’s like as if, for example, the teachers make up a rule that they can confiscate student’s personal property permanently. Then they take the stuff home and give it to their relatives and then they claim that they were “following the rules”.

This is where we get perversion being forced on children by the schools. Some unelected educrat sicko invents “rules” designed to create oversexualized kids that he plans to obtain sex from. Then they pretend that the “rules” are some sort of mandate from higher authority. Like is happening right now in our schools.

Yeah “Rules”. “Rules” made up by crooks to defend their own depredations.


44 posted on 04/26/2016 11:42:49 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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I don’t like what the article says.

It is not pro-Trump, therefore it is not pro-FR.

Why are we still having to see threads like this on FR? I thought we were free of this now.

Citizen, do you not value your senority on FR? I see you have 9 years. It would be a shame for you to be demoted to newb, just because you can’t get your mind right.


45 posted on 04/26/2016 11:42:54 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Colorado?


51 posted on 04/26/2016 11:51:57 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (GOPe/MSM - "When we want your opinion, we will give it to you.")
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The entire primary system, just like the entire general election is rigged, its rigged by the folks in power to in every way stay in power.... that’s the nature of our system, has been from the get go...

This provides some incredible stability to our government, and also makes it that more incredible when someone or something upsets that apple cart.... it takes incredible momentum and culmination of events to overcome the inertia inherently and intentionally put into the system to bring about change.

Now, with that said, I don’t complain about Cruz or the GOPe trying to use the rules to their advantage, of course they are going to do that, that is why those rules are put into place.... To ensure that they won’t lose their power on a momentary whim of the unwashed masses.

May not be fair, but that’s how it is, and it is that way for a reason... Complaining about it though doesn’t change it, the way to change it is to win in spite of all their barriers.


60 posted on 04/26/2016 12:02:46 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Too much logic and reasoning in that article. Thanks for posting it.


62 posted on 04/26/2016 12:07:37 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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http://www.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995/here-is-the-gop-ballot-vs-14647116/

Here Is The GOP Ballot VS. The Democratic Ballot In Pennsylvania—Notice Anything Strange?


85 posted on 04/26/2016 3:50:32 PM PDT by niki
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